Hannity’s Special…

Posted on Thursday 27 August 2009


CIA Documents Provide Little Cover for Cheney Claims
Documents Fail to Exonerate ‘Enhanced Interrogation’ Techniques
Washington Independent

By Spencer Ackerman
8/24/09

For months, former Vice President Dick Cheney has said that two documents prepared by the CIA, one from 2004 and the other from 2005, would refute critics of the Bush administration’s torture program. He told Fox’s Sean Hannity in April:
    “I haven’t talked about it, but I know specifically of reports that I read, that I saw, that lay out what we learned through the interrogation process and what the consequences were for the country,” Cheney said. “I’ve now formally asked the CIA to take steps to declassify those memos so we can lay them out there and the American people have a chance to see what we obtained and what we learned and how good the intelligence was.”
Those documents were obtained today by The Washington Independent and are available here.  Strikingly, they provide little evidence for Cheney’s claims that the “enhanced interrogation” program run by the CIA provided valuable information. In fact, throughout both documents, many passages — though several are incomplete and circumstantial, actually suggest the opposite of Cheney’s contention: that non-abusive techniques actually helped elicit some of the most important information the documents cite in defending the value of the CIA’s interrogations.

The first document, issued by the CIA in July 2004 is about the interrogation of 9/11 architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times in March 2003 and whom, the newly released CIA Inspector General report on torture details, had his children’s lives threatened by an interrogator.  None of that abuse is referred to in the publicly released version of the July 2004 document. Instead, we learn from the July 2004 document that not only did the man known as “KSM” largely provide intelligence about “historical plots” pulled off from al-Qaeda, a fair amount of the knowledge he imparted to his interrogators came from his “rolodex” — that is, what intelligence experts call “pocket litter,” or the telling documentation found on someone’s person when captured. As well, traditional intelligence work appears to have done wonders — including a fair amount of blundering on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s part:
    In response to questions about [al-Qaeda’s] efforts to acquire [weapons of mass destruction], [Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] revealed that he had met three individuals involved in [al-Qaeda’s] program to produce anthrax. He appears to have calculated, incorrectly, that we had this information already, given that one of the three — Yazid Sufaat — had been in foreign custody for several months.
This is a far cry from torturing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed into revealing such information. It would be tendentious to believe that the torture didn’t have any impact on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — he himself said that he lied to interrogators in order to get the torture to stop — but the document itself doesn’t attempt to present a case that the “enhanced interrogation” program was a factor, let alone the determinant factor, in the intelligence bounty the document says he provided.

The second newly released document — a June 2005 overview of information extracted from detainees — is, if anything, more caveated. In making a case that “detainee reporting” was “pivotal for the war against [al-Qaeda],” it says that “detainee reporting is often incomplete or too general to lead directly to arrests; instead, detainees provide critical pieces to the puzzle, which, when combined with other reporting, have helped direct an investigation’s focus and led to the capture of terrorists.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the prime example here.

The document also discusses unraveling the network of Indonesian al-Qaeda affiliate Hambali after Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s capture. There are repeated references to the value of “debriefings,” which the 2004 CIA inspector general’s report says are distinct from the “enhanced interrogation techniques” but can be used after they occur. For instance, “Debriefings of mid-level [al-Qaeda] operatives also have reported on specific plots against U.S. interests.” Indeed, in a section titled “Aiding Our Understanding [al-Qaeda],” a listed example is:
    Abu Zubaydah’s identification early in his detention of [Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] as the mastermind of 11 September and [al-Qaeda’s] premier terrorist planner and of ‘Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri as another key [al-Qaeda] operational planner corroborated information [REDACTED].
Those revelations, as former Abu Zubaydah interrogator Ali Soufan has testified, came before Abu Zubaydah was tortured.

Similarly, the document contains accounts of how interrogators performed the traditional interrogation labors of cross-checking detainees’ accounts with each other to determine veracity, and particularly when cross-referenced with “large volumes of documents and computer data”:
    For example, lists of names found on the computer [REDACTED] — a key [al-Qaeda] financial operative and facilitator for the 11 September attacks — seized in March 2003 represented [al-Qaeda] members who were to receive funds. Debriefers questioned detainees extensively on the names to determine who they were and how important they were to the organization. The information [REDACTED] helped us to better understand al-Qa’ida’s hierarchy, revenues, and expenditures, [REDACTED] as well as funds that were available to families.
Again, perhaps the blacked-out lines of the memos specifically claim and document that torture and only torture yielded this information. But what’s released within them does not remotely make that case. Cheney’s public account of these documents have conflated the difference between information acquired from detainees, which the documents present, and information acquired from detainees through the enhanced interrogation program, which they don’t.

In a statement, Tom Parker, the policy director of Amnesty International’s American branch, said, “Perhaps unsurprisingly, given Vice President Cheney’s track record, the two CIA memos released today are hardly the slam dunk we had been led to expect.  There is little or no supporting evidence in either memo to give substance to the specific claims about impending attacks made by Khaled Shaik Mohammed in highly coercive circumstances.”

It seems superfluous to post this. You know it already. All it says is that Cheney was lying about these two documents. And who cares? Everybody should care, but it’s not getting much press. Why Sean Hannity hasn’t even mentioned it. Maybe he’s doing a Special later…
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    Carl
    August 28, 2009 | 9:56 AM
     

    Welcome home ya’ll!

    I share with you the single, even remotely political conversation I had during our recent “12 days in the wilderness” expedition. We portaged the gear around an old dam which has crumbled into the river, it’s bones now maintaining a threat to canoes. While we were portaging, my brother-in-law decided that we could risk taking the boats solo through a channel on the far side of the river. We did so and then Ken engaged the four young one’s in the party in “rapids play” below the dam where he would pick a point of boiled up water and run right into it. The canoe would take off like a shot, swamping and capsize were very real outcomes but neither of those things mattered in the circumstances. So, while Ken was playing with the kids, I entered into a conversation with an athletic looking guy, shaved head and expertly equipped, who, with his family and two Maine Guides (these are certified watermen…you have to pay them, feed them and take their advice), had grabbed the campsite at the carry site (an objective we’d had as well but it is first come, first served). We mostly talked about rivers and moose and camping with kids and stuff. He asked me what else I did and I told him that I was going to Kansas City and would be working with wounded warriors at Ft. Riley for the next 6 months. He allowed that he worked for the Sec’y of Defense at the Pentagon, was a graduate of the War College (the one for general officers) and lived in Alexandria. I’m not sure if he is active duty or a civilian employee. Anyway, I did ask him how working for his new boss was and how it compared to his old boss. And he correctly ascertained that I was interested in the understanding of “boss” to include the Commander in Chief and the administration generally. First he had sincere and considered compliments for Sec’y. Gates (his immediate boss). And then he said that the previous boss (in the expanded definition sense) were not missed…that they were comprised of concretists whose minds and decisions were immovable, that they wouldn’t listen to jackshit from anyone no matter how expert and qualified they might be to speak to this or that matter at hand which might or might not involve the country’s best interests or perhaps the life or death of children and other living things. Of course you know all this because you’ve been paying attention and I guess I knew this too and may even been asking a kind of rhetorical question in the first place (though I didn’t let on and was ever so diplomatic and skillful in the posing – if he’d been a rabid hawk, I think I would have found him out and would have listened politely to what he had to say). However, I thought you would be reassured to hear this coming as it does straight from the mouth of a horse involved every day on big DoD work.

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