echo echo echo echo echo echo echo…

Posted on Wednesday 28 September 2011

Some echos just keep on reverberating, maybe until the end of days. I reckon the Atypicals are iterating towards becoming the Typicals, at least from the perspective of the F.D.A. [so much for there being a rule about there being a need before a new drug is introduced to the market]. But in psychopharmacology, making it onto the shelves is just the first step. After that, there’s a  secondary pipeline – the indication march…

Latuda® has a rich tradition of Clinical Trials and marketing techniques to lead them on their journey. The first part was the hardest – getting on the board. That’s behind them now:

Sunovion® Latuda Schizophrenia Clinical Trials
NCT ID Recruit Phase StartDate

NCT01074073 Done I 08/2008
NCT01082250 Done I 07/2008
NCT01074632 Done I 05/2009
NCT01082263 Done I 10/2008
NCT01082289 Done I 09/2008
NCT00044005 Done II 09/2002
NCT00088621 Done II 07/2004
NCT00044044 Done II 07/2002
NCT00088634 Done II 05/2004
NCT01435928 Not Yet III 09/2011
NCT00790192 Done III 10/2008
NCT00549718 Done III 10/2007
NCT00641745 Done III 03/2008
NCT00615433 Done III 01/2008
NCT01143090 Active III 08/2010
NCT01143077 Done III 06/2010
NCT00711269 YES III 07/2008

Now comes the indication march proper [already in place well before the initial F.D.A. Approval]:

Sunovion® Latuda Phase III Clinical Trials
NCT ID Title Recruit StartDate

NCT00868699 6-week Study, Bipolar I Depression (Monotherapy) YES 04/2009
NCT00868959 24-week Extension Study, Bipolar I Depression YES 04/2009
NCT00868452 6-week Study, Bipolar I Depression (Add-on) YES 04/2009
NCT01284517 6-week Study, Bipolar I Depression YES 11/2010
NCT01358357 Bipolar Maintenance Adjunctive to Lithium or Divalproex YES 06/2011
NCT01421134 MDD With Mixed Features – Flexible Dose YES 09/2011
NCT01423253 MDD With Mixed Features – Extension Not Yet 09/2011
NCT01423240 MDD With Mixed Features Not Yet 10/2011

They’re following in the footsteps of some of the greats, well warned about the shoals of false advertising and other sleaze by the antics of their predecessors. Their problem – the generics are here. Even just plain Seroquel went off-patent this week – so, at $14+/pill for Latuda, it’s going to be an uphill climb. What they have going for them is that it seems to be weight neutral [so far]. What’s on the downside? It’s a decidedly weak sister [efficacy-wise]; it has an annoying EPS profile; and maybe, just maybe, people are finally tired of over-medicating and being over-medicated. But at Sunovion, hope springs eternal
  1.  
    jamzo
    September 28, 2011 | 4:08 PM
     

    sharing information related to recurring topics of the boring old man

    a medscape post on 9/28/11 that paints a detailed view of technology based diagnosis in psychiatry

    Psychiatric Diagnosis in the Lab: How Far Off Are We?

    Jeffrey A. Lieberman, MD

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/750288

  2.  
    Bernard Carroll
    September 28, 2011 | 9:53 PM
     

    Thanks for this link, jamzo. I sent a letter to Medscape about Dr. Lieberman’s program.

    Regarding Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman’s program that aired 28 September 2011,”Psychiatric Diagnosis in the Lab: How Far Off Are We?”: This is the worst Medscape presentation I have ever seen. Dr. Lieberman reminds me of Rick Perry at the last Republican candidates’ debate – ill informed, fumbling, innumerate, with poverty of content of speech, lacking in specific information, and clueless to instruct on the process of biomarker development. Surely Medscape can do better! Please ensure that Dr. Lieberman receives this feedback.

  3.  
    September 28, 2011 | 10:24 PM
     

    It really was pretty bad, wasn’t it [Psychiatric Diagnosis in the Lab: How Far Off Are We?]? Of course, his venture in Tarrytown, NY [PsychoGenics Inc] may have something to do with his enthusiasm for laboratories to rise to the task at hand.

    And don’t miss the Scientific Advisors. Eric Nestler from Mount Sinai is there [formerly the Chairman from the Texas Department that brought us STAR*D and TMAP]. Maurice Fava from Harvard [and STAR*D] is on board along with Nobel Laureate, Paul Greengard. And Columbia’s walk-about Chairman, Jeffrey Lieberman, is right there.

    The trinity of evidence-based medicine, translational medicine, and personalized medicine are coming together just in time to meet the challenges of the patent expirations over the next few years. With an empty pharmaceutical pipeline, and the age of SSRIs and Atypical Antipsychotics coming to a close, a generation of neurobiologists is aiming to consummate the marriage of academic psychiatry to the pharmaceutical industry, and continue their lucrative march into a brave new world.

  4.  
    SG
    September 29, 2011 | 1:47 AM
     

    “The trinity of evidence-based medicine, translational medicine, and personalized medicine are coming together just in time to meet the challenges of the patent expirations over the next few years. With an empty pharmaceutical pipeline, and the age of SSRIs and Atypical Antipsychotics coming to a close, a generation of neurobiologists is aiming to consummate the marriage of academic psychiatry to the pharmaceutical industry, and continue their lucrative march into a brave new world.”

    MIckey — I’m reminded, of all things, of the Solyndra debacle whenever you speak of psychiatric “science” that isn’t ready for prime time (personalized medicine, biomarkers, translational science, etc). Solyndra proved once and for all that you can’t just build a facility and wait for the Brinks trucks to pull up. The technology (here, solar power) has to be tested in the market first and be proven as financially viable/profitable before the government should lend one dime to it (if any money. I honestly don’t think the govt should subsidize any business costs).

    But of course the White House didn’t do any of that and Solyndra went belly up.

    Such is the case with Insel’s grand plan for what psychiatry will look like. It’s so obvious what psychiatry is doing: it’s scrambling for the next big thing to fill the vacuum formed from pharmaceutical companies’ growing absence. Are these “big things” thoroughly tested with real science and research? Of course not, as you have amply proved. But just like with Solyndra, appearance is reality, and as long as psychiatry appears that it’s moving forward, that’s all that matters (just as Obama made the appearance he was investing in the economy and creating jobs). And I’ll bet money that patients invested in the future of psychiatry will suffer more than layoffs like those in Solyndra for the folly.

    Detestable.

  5.  
    September 30, 2011 | 9:09 AM
     

    Looks like Seroquel XR is going generic in 2016…

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