an hour and ten minutes worth hearing…

Posted on Tuesday 21 May 2013


[Lieberman, Frances, Horowitz]


[Greenberg]

  1.  
    jamzo
    May 21, 2013 | 7:09 AM
     

    FYI

    ” strange anti-mental health bedfellows”

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    DSM-5: Caught between Mental Illness Stigma and Anti-Psychiatry Prejudice

    By Jeffrey A. Lieberman | May 20, 2013 |

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/2013/05/20/dsm-5-caught-between-mental-illness-stigma-and-anti-psychiatry-prejudice/

  2.  
    CannotSay2013
    May 21, 2013 | 10:33 AM
     

    Boy, that attempt by Lieberman to link valid criticism of psychiatry to Scientology (and the host of the program shutting him down for doing so) was priceless!!

  3.  
    May 21, 2013 | 1:30 PM
     

    CannotSay,

    Lieberman is using some hardcore tactics.
    Once a person is falsely labeled or falsely associated, the disempowering can begin.

    And if the person or group fights back, they are further dismissed and marginalized, with more labels. In grade school we called it “name calling”. They call it “diagnosing.”

    These tactics must come from talking points memos inside APA leadership. They have it down to a science.

    Oops, I’m not sure they have anything down to a science!

    Duane

  4.  
    Annonymous
    May 21, 2013 | 2:09 PM
     

    1boringoldman, looked at the link from Jazmo. wouldn’t it be tough to tell this anecdote without his colleague’s peers becoming aware:

    “Only recently, I was at a meeting of medical school leadership at my university, where we discussed how to counsel medical students about choosing which specialty to pursue. One senior faculty member quipped “tell all students who get low scores on their board exams not to worry, they just need to change their career plans and go into psychiatry.”

    A few months later, the same faculty member called me late one night, asking if I would see his wife, who was having a “psychiatric problem.”

    The urgency of his request belied any awareness that the joke he made at psychiatry’s expense in that meeting undermined our ability to deliver the kind of quality care that his wife now needed. But it can, and it does.”

    Or do you believe this was just a hypothetical anecdote? It just seemed a bit unusual given the original statement was made in front of others. Perhaps the story was modified in some way not mentioned to annonimize it or his colleague agreed to the reference.

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