tangling the web…

Posted on Friday 4 May 2007

Well, I guess that meeting I was talking about yesterday [the meeting…] on March 5th was as significant as it looked to me. Yesterday, both McClatchy and Newsweek reported on it, citing information leaked by a Demopcratic Congressional Aid and a Justice Official, about Paul McNulty’s closed hearing testimony. From McClatchy:
According to a congressional aide, McNulty said he attended a White House meeting with Karl Rove, President Bush’s top political adviser, and other officials on March 5, the day before McNulty’s deputy William Moschella was to testify to Congress about the firings.

White House officials told the Justice Department group that they needed to agree on clear reasons why each prosecutor was fired and explain them to Congress, McNulty said, according to the aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the transcript of McNulty’s interview hasn’t been made public.

McNulty said that White House officials never revealed during the meeting that they’d been discussing plans to replace some prosecutors with Gonzales aides, the congressional aide said.

McNulty recalled feeling disturbed and concerned when he found out days later that the White House had been involved, the congressional aide said. McNulty considered the extent of White House coordination to be "extremely problematic."

A Justice Department spokesman declined comment. A White House spokesman said the meeting wasn’t unusual. "We have meetings all the time," said Tony Fratto, who declined to say who attended the March 5 meeting.
Michael Isakoff’s Newsweek article is more detailed and reaches some conclusions:
Rove, Still In the Mix

Deputy chief of staff Karl Rove participated in a hastily called meeting at the White House two months ago.; The subject: The firing of eight U.S. attorneys last year. The purpose: to coach a top Justice Department official heading to Capitol Hill to testify on the prosecutorial purge on what he should say.

At the March 5, 2007 meeting, White House aides, including counsel Fred Fielding and deputy counsel William Kelley, sought to shape testimony that principal associate deputy attorney general William Moscella was to give the next day before the House Judiciary Committee.

Although the existence of the White House meeting had been previously disclosed by the Justice Department, Rove’s attendance at the strategy session was not—until both Moscella and deputy attorney general Paul McNulty talked about it in confidential testimony with congressional investigators last week…

According to McNulty’s account, Rove came late to the meeting and left early. But while he was there he spoke up and echoed a point that was made by the other White House aides: The Justice Department needed to provide specific reasons why it terminated the eight prosecutors in order to rebut Democratic charges that the firings were politically motivated. The point Rove and other White House officials made is “you all need to explain what you did and why you did it,” McNulty told the investigators.

The problem, according to the Democratic aide, is that Rove and Kelley never told Moscella about the White House’s own role in pushing to have some U.S. attorneys fired in the first place.  Moscella followed the coaching by Rove and others—and made no mention of White House involvement in the firings during his March 6, 2007 testimony to House Judiciary. “They let Moscella come up here without telling him the full story,” said the Democratic staffer…

A White House spokesman dismissed the significance of the March meeting, saying it was not surprising that a deputy White House chief of staff like Rove would participate in internal discussions about the firings of presidential appointees. “It’s perfectly natural that he would be there,” said deputy press secretary Tony Fratto.

Several points:

  • A White House spokesman said the meeting wasn’t unusual. "We have meetings all the time," said Tony Fratto. This is simply a lie. It was an emergency meeting called by William Kelly around lunchtime and had people at the DOJ scrambling to get there by 5:00 PM.
  • The point Rove and other White House officials made is “you all need to explain what you did and why you did it,” McNulty told the investigators. The White House did it! Not the DOJ. Moschella is being told to make up an alibi for the White House.
  • McNulty said that White House officials never revealed during the meeting that they’d been discussing plans to replace some prosecutors with Gonzales aides, the congressional aide said. The firing plan and the White House [Rove’s] involvement was a secret kept from people inside the DOJ.
  • Michael Battle resigned on March 5th [In response to this meeting? rather than attend it?].

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