{"id":12709,"date":"2011-08-30T09:41:22","date_gmt":"2011-08-30T13:41:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=12709"},"modified":"2011-08-30T09:45:15","modified_gmt":"2011-08-30T13:45:15","slug":"panhandled-blockbusters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/08\/30\/panhandled-blockbusters\/","title":{"rendered":"panhandled blockbusters&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">In the last post, the <em>rant<\/em> of Dr. Stephen  Stahl is obviously the product of someone injured by what he sees  happening around him to the world that he&#8217;s known throughout his career.  He creates a &quot;Straw Man&quot; argument in which the heterogeneous collection  of critics of the pharmaceutical industry are portrayed as if they are  of one mind [a deranged mind at that] and specifically motivated to  destroy access of the mentally ill to much needed future treatment. It  would be equally easy to find other <em>rants<\/em> in the blogs on the  other side of the issue [probably in the archives of this very blog  you&#8217;re reading]. Dr. Stahl creates a group he calls <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Pharma-scolds<\/font><\/strong> who say:   <\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>&quot;Worse  than tobacco companies and big  oil companies! Supposedly they  have  ruined CME and have corrupted  psychiatric experts as consultants,   lecturers and research grant  recipients! Drug companies only engage in   expensive patent extension  gimmickry and offer no true innovations!   Let&rsquo;s criminalize the marketing  of psychiatric drugs, levy billions in   fines to Pharma, force out their  CEOs and even make them and their   Pharma collaborators take the &ldquo;perp  walk&rdquo; on their way to court in   chains and orange jumpsuits and in front  of the cameras! Get out of our   professional societies! Get out of our  journals! Get out of our   medical centers! Good riddance!!!&quot;<\/sup><\/div>\n<p> <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>&quot;&#8230;the  great delight of the anti-psychiatry community, lights up the   antipsychiatry blogs [e.g., Carlat] who attract the Pharmascolds,   scientologists and antimedication  crowd who believe either there is no   such thing as mental illness, that  medication should not be used, or   both. Did you know that psychiatric  illnesses are pure inventions of   Pharma and their experts to treat  patients that do not exist with drugs   that are dangerous and do not work  with the purpose only of profiting   themselves? Stop the profits! Make  mental illness go away by   legislation and committee! Treat human mental  suffering with love and   peace and all will be well! Who needs mental  health professionals and   their diabolical drugs anyway?&quot;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">Dr Stahl sees his friends and colleagues literally out of work as part of a collapsing industry &#8211; particularly in the UK:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>Pharma   have heard these protests loud and clear and are now pulling out  of   psychiatric research. Two of the biggest defectors are the two  British   companies Astra Zeneca and GSK, who have shuttered all their    laboratories for mental health research for good, closing facilities all    over the world including those the US, UK and Italy and elsewhere.    Also, Pfizer bought Pharmacia\/Upjohn and closed their CNS research    center in Kalamazoo, Michigan; bought Parke Davis and closed their CNS    research center in Ann Arbor, Michigan; bought Wyeth and closed their    CNS research center in Princeton, NJ; and then for good measure closed    their own CNS research center in the UK. Merck closed their CNS  research   center in the UK where I worked in the 1980s, then bought    Organon\/Schering Plough and closed their CNS research center in the    UK\/Scotland for good measure. I could go on and on. This has had a    devastating impact especially on the US and the UK. In fact, the UK has    gone from a leader in CNS Pharma Research Centers, to having no big    Pharma CNS research at all, with thousands of unemployed R and D    scientists there and no prospect of CNS therapeutic innovation coming    from their shores in the foreseeable future.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">A <em>rant<\/em>  from the other side of the coin would point to the patients with  diabetes, obesity, tardive dyskinesia, the SSRI withdrawal syndrome,  etc. People whose lives have been altered by the side effects that were  minimized or frankly hidden by the pharmaceutical industry. It would  bring up the bilkoing of State and Federal programs by schemes like  TMAP; the corruption of the psychiatric literature and continuing  medical education; the greed of physicians participating in  ghost-writing, guest-authoring, speaker&#8217;s bureaus; the stealth  advertising and detailing campaigns designed to deceive [I&#8217;m on that  side of the fence, so I can do that <em>rant<\/em> with more expertise].  But Straw Man arguments or Ad Hominem attacks [like Stahl makes against  Carlat] are Logical Fallacies by definition. They&#8217;re the kind of  arguments people make when they have some personal investment in being  right. And in this case, both sides cover their arguments with the  protective umbrella of passionate patient advocacy.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Psychiatry  has moved in monotonous cycles where new approaches are widely  embraced, over-utilized, then become the new problem rather than stay in  their former role as solution. Freeing the mentally ill from prisons by  creating humane mental institutions became the &quot;snake pit&quot; State  Hospitals of later years. Then liberating the warehoused patients from  hospitals became the creation of the homeless mentally ill street  people. Psycho-surgery, Insulin Coma, Convulsive therapy all moved from  innovation to abusive. Psychoanalysis and other &quot;mind therapies&quot; went  from scientific breakthrough to &quot;n=1&quot; speculations. Now  psychopharmacology and neuroscience are waning as their limitations and  ill effects are more apparent. It&#8217;s in the nature of medicine to move  through paradigm shifts and cycles like this, but psychiatry has less  access to an anchoring basic science, and so it swings wildly compared  to the rest of medicine.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Were we able to  climb a tall tower where we could look over the whole forest, I expect  we would see the current moment in a more balanced way. There&#8217;s a limit  to what can be done by manipulating the neurotransmitters and their  receptors &#8211; and we&#8217;re probably closer to the edges of that limit than  we&#8217;d like to accept. The same is likely true of the dynamic  psychotherapies, the behavioral therapies, and the cognitive therapies &#8211;  we&#8217;re closer to their limits as well. From the tall tower perspective,  the &quot;empty pipeline&quot; and the collapsing psychopharmacological R&amp;D  industry lamented by Dr. Stahl may have more to do with the limits of  our current understanding than with all the bluster and contentious  arguments that occupy the foreground.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">It&#8217;s  interesting to be a retired doctor practicing some in Charity Clinics  in an under-served rural area. I don&#8217;t feel impotent when I see  patients. There&#8217;s some <em>crisis intervention<\/em>, a rasher of <em>social work<\/em>, a bit of <em>psycho-dynamic<\/em> therapy here and there [even a dollop of <em>CBT<\/em>], plenty of Meyer&#8217;s <em>Common Sense Psychiatry<\/em>, the <em>generic medications<\/em>, and more <em>Internal Medicine <\/em>and<em> Neurology<\/em>  than I would&#8217;ve guessed. And when I think about the medications I use  now compared to the ones I  used as a resident in the pre-DSM-III,   pre-Psychiatry-as-Clinical-Neuroscience days. There are the generic   SSRIs [the ones with low withdrawal potential], a few older Tricyclics,   Wellbutrin, the numerous anti-psychotics have dwindled to only Haldol   and Risperdal [for psychotic patients who can&#8217;t\/won&#8217;t tolerate  Haldol],  Depakote or Lithium for Manic Depression, and some remarkably better  engineered stimulants for ADD\/ADHD. I only use Benzodiazepines  short-term for people in crisis. It&#8217;s not that different from 1987. I  can usually put together what&#8217;s needed &#8211; limited more by resources and  time than by the constraints of the state of the art. There are  obviously a lot of patients who want or could use a lot more than we can  do, but the limitations are hardly in the failings of psychiatry,  they&#8217;re in the complexities or circumstances of the patient&#8217;s lives. I  end those volunteer days feeling like I&#8217;ve done my job, usually  rolling  around in my mind some unanswered question from a confusing  case on  the way home. It was like that in 1987 too. On clinic days, I rarely  think of the things I write about on this blog except as an ever-present  reminder to refrain from over-medicating.<\/p>\n<div>What I&#8217;m aiming at is answering Dr. Stahl&#8217;s question:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>What  a difference 25 years makes!  Returning now to the same Royal  Society  of Medicine with others, but  now with our collective tail  between our  legs, we are stating that  &ldquo;things could not be worse.&rdquo; <strong><font color=\"#990000\">Were  the last 25 years of mental health  treatment discoveries so worthless  as to discard these efforts for the  future?<\/font><\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">His  question itself borders on melodrama, but to take it at face value:  &quot;No, they weren&#8217;t as worthless as all of that.&quot; And at an earlier time  in our history, one might have heard, &quot;Were the last 25 years of  psychoanalysis and the other psychotherapies so worthless as to discard  those efforts for the future?&quot; It&#8217;s an equally melodramatic question,  but it has the same answer. Later disappointments in a paradigm when its  limits are reached are no reason to discard the paradigm altogether.  But if Dr. Stahl asked, &quot;Were the last 25 years of unethical marketing  strategies and active manipulation of medical information by the  pharmaceutical industry so egregious as to discard those practices for  the future?&quot; The answer is an unequivocal, &quot;Damned right they were &#8211; at  any cost!&quot; The later disappointments of formerly promising advances in  medicine are just part of how things work &#8211; as predictable as the tides  and the seasons. But Dr. Stahl&#8217;s question is a piece of rhetoric that  completely bypasses the central ethical issue of the hour. He adds,  again somewhat melodramatically:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>We  can join the British and the Europeans  and move forward, or we can   completely kill this industry and wait a  decade or two, while   experiencing no progress and thus leave a legacy of  no innovation and   no apparatus to innovate. We will have to see if our  children or   grandchildren who become mental health professionals want to  rebuild a   Pharma industry that is interested in mental health or if yet  another   industry leaves the US for good.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">If today&#8217;s pharmaceutical industry can&#8217;t make it by playing it straight, let them go. We can wait for our kids and a &quot;<em>Pharma industry that is interested in mental health<\/em>&quot; instead of ill-gotten gains from panhandled blockbusters&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the last post, the rant of Dr. Stephen Stahl is obviously the product of someone injured by what he sees happening around him to the world that he&#8217;s known throughout his career. 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