{"id":132,"date":"2006-02-06T19:20:24","date_gmt":"2006-02-07T00:20:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2006\/02\/06\/neoconservatives-a-negative-identity\/"},"modified":"2006-02-07T12:03:46","modified_gmt":"2006-02-07T17:03:46","slug":"neoconservatives-a-negative-identity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2006\/02\/06\/neoconservatives-a-negative-identity\/","title":{"rendered":"<i>neo<\/i>conservatives: nothing new under the sun&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p align=\"justify\">I&#8217;ve spent the last couple of days reading about Neoconservativism. See, I had this great idea of explaining what it is. Well here&#8217;s the deal. I&#8217;ve erased everything I was writing about it because I was just talking around the bush [pun intended]. It didn&#8217;t make any sense.So here are the salient points of what I decided did make sense:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Neoconservatives are <em>not<\/em> Liberals<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Neoconservatives are <em>not<\/em> Conservatives<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Neoconservatives are <u>way more<\/u> <em>not<\/em> Liberals than they are <em>not<\/em> Conservatives<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Neoconservatives are <em>nothing<\/em> new<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p align=\"justify\">Neoconservatives understood the world when our job was to fight Communism, particularly Ronald Reagan&#8217;s way of fighting Communism. So,&nbsp; although there aren&#8217;t any more of those Communists to fight, we&#8217;re going to keep at it. Who is the enemy now? <strong>Rogue States<\/strong>, that&#8217;s who. They aren&#8217;t Communists, but they will do. The main ones are in the Middle East &#8211; Iraq, Iran, Syria.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Neoconservatives see the United Nations as a bother, an impediment to progress. We&#8217;re not going to honor our U.N. Commitments. Neoconservatives see the Geneva Conventions as an impediment to progress. We&#8217;re not going to honor the Geneva Conventions. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">In foreign policy, Neoconservatives are <strike>anti-Communists<\/strike> anti-RogueStates. They&#8217;re outrageous spenders; they cut taxes, primarily those that affect the rich; and they build really big armies. So they&#8217;re <strong><em>not<\/em> Conservative<\/strong> because they are <strong>big spenders<\/strong> and <strong>big government<\/strong> people.  In domestic policy, Neoconservatives are not just <strong><em>not<\/em> Liberal<\/strong>, they&#8217;re <strong>anti-Liberal<\/strong>. But, for them, this is a positive identity. <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" vspace=\"2\" hspace=\"7\" height=\"117\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/www.historycooperative.org\/journals\/ohq\/105.2\/images\/toy_fig02a.jpg\" \/>They dissemble anything that has been traditionally seen as a Liberal program or value. So their domestic policy is hard to follow unless you are a very liberal person. Then it&#8217;s easy. They are opposed to anything you are for. It&#8217;s an extension of that anti-Communism thing. The equation is fairly concrete. Social programs are Socialism, which is really a code word for Communism. They used to say that Liberals were &quot;pinkos,&quot; Communist Sympathizers. Now, they say Liberals are Terrorist Sympathizers. It comes down to this. &quot;We&#8217;ve got to get rid of those <strike>Communists<\/strike> Rogue States and those Liberals&quot; as if these two groups are the same thing. What&#8217;s kind of interesting is that back in McCarthy&#8217;s day, some Liberals were Communists, at the least intellectual Marxists. Nowdays, there isn&#8217;t even a remote connection between those with a Liberal sentiment and the Terrorists. But the old red-baiting rhetoric is still alive.      <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Karl Rove&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2006\/01\/01\/the-politics-of-contempt\/\"><strong>speech<\/strong><\/a> to the New York Conservatives is probably to most egregious example of <em>Liberal = <strike>Communist<\/strike> Terrorist Supporter<\/em>. A recent <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/nationworld\/nation\/la-na-bush11jan11,0,1039684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation\"><strong>example<\/strong><\/a> of Bush equating dissent and subversiveness reminescent of the Nixon Era [quoted by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/digbysblog.blogspot.com\/2006_01_08_digbysblog_archive.html#113703665165975075\"><strong>Digby<\/strong><\/a>]:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"> Bush said the war&#8217;s critics should stop questioning the motives that led him to launch the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.<\/div>\n<p>      <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">  &quot;The American people know the difference between responsible and irresponsible debate when they see it&hellip;. And they know the difference between a loyal opposition that points out what is wrong, and defeatists who refuse to see that anything is right,&quot; Bush said.<\/div>\n<p>      <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">  &quot;I ask all Americans to hold their elected leaders to account and demand a debate that brings credit to our democracy &mdash; not comfort to our adversaries,&quot; Bush said. <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">That&#8217;s it. How&#8217;d I do? It sounds kind of silly, but it sure makes more sense than anything I read that tried to explain it in more academic or lofty terms. It&#8217;s just the worst of the McCarthy sentiment in new garb &#8211; John Birch Society rhetoric with a new &quot;Menace&quot;.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">How does this relate to the hearings about the unwarranted N.S.A. domestic surveillance program? All we hear about is how important it is to keep tabs on those <strike>commies<\/strike> terrorists and having to get judicial approval is just plain <strike>Communist<\/strike> Terrorist sympathizing. Not matter how much we point out that we agree enthusiastically with the surveillance and that it&#8217;s only the unlawful skipping over judicial review that we&#8217;re upset about, the same worn out rhetoric repeats over and over&#8230;<\/p>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/>\n<div align=\"justify\">12:00 Noon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Reader Dawn makes an excellent point. Neoconservativism is a more a <em>Persuasion<\/em> than an <em>Ideology<\/em>.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve spent the last couple of days reading about Neoconservativism. See, I had this great idea of explaining what it is. Well here&#8217;s the deal. I&#8217;ve erased everything I was writing about it because I was just talking around the bush [pun intended]. 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