{"id":1952,"date":"2008-03-21T21:20:50","date_gmt":"2008-03-22T02:20:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2008\/03\/21\/an-honest-man-andrew-sullivan\/"},"modified":"2008-03-21T21:42:02","modified_gmt":"2008-03-22T02:42:02","slug":"an-honest-man-andrew-sullivan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2008\/03\/21\/an-honest-man-andrew-sullivan\/","title":{"rendered":"an honest man: Andrew Sullivan&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2008\/03\/what-i-got-wron.html\"><strong>Misreading Bush<\/strong><\/a><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" hspace=\"5\" height=\"115\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/tbn0.google.com\/images?q=tbn:DyybIA5gRdretM:http:\/\/booksense-stores.booksense.com\/images\/stores\/8001\/storeevents\/AndrewSullivan.jpg\" \/>&#8230; Yes, the incompetence and arrogance were beyond anything I imagined. In 2000, my support for Bush was not deep. I thought he was an okay, unifying, moderate Republican who would be fine for a time of peace and prosperity. I was concerned &#8211; ha! &#8211; that Gore would spend too much. I was reassured by the experience and intelligence and pedigree of Cheney and Rumsfeld and Powell. Two of them had already fought and won a war in the Gulf. The bitter election battle hardened my loyalty. And once 9\/11 happened, my support intensified as I hoped for the best. His early speeches were magnificent. The Afghanistan invasion was defter than I expected. I got lulled. I wanted him to succeed &#8211; too much, in retrospect. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But my biggest misreading was not about competence. Wars are often marked by incompetence. It was a fatal misjudgment of Bush&#8217;s sense of morality.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I had no idea he was so complacent &#8211; even glib &#8211; about the evil that men with good intentions can enable. I truly did not believe that Bush would use 9\/11 to tear up the Geneva Conventions. When I first heard of abuses at Gitmo, I dismissed them as enemy propaganda. I certainly never believed that a conservative would embrace torture as the central thrust of an anti-terror strategy, and lie about it, and scapegoat underlings for it, and give us the indelible stain of Bagram and Camp Cropper and Abu Ghraib and all the other secret torture and interrogation sites that he created and oversaw. I certainly never believed that a war I supported for the sake of freedom would actually use as its central weapon the deepest antithesis of freedom &#8211; the destruction of human autonomy and dignity and will that is torture. To distort this by shredding the English language, by engaging in newspeak that I had long associated with totalitarian regimes, was a further insult. And for me, an epiphany about what American conservatism had come to mean.  <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">I know our enemy is much worse. I have never doubted that. But I never believed that America would do what America has done. Never. My misjudgment at the deepest moral level of what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld were capable of &#8211; a misjudgment that violated the moral core of the enterprise&nbsp; &#8211; was my worst mistake. What the war has done to what is left of Iraq &#8211; the lives lost, the families destroyed, the bodies tortured, the civilization trashed &#8211; was bad enough. But what was done to America &#8211; and the meaning of America &#8211; was unforgivable. And for that I will not and should not forgive myself either.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Andrew Sullivan is an enigma for some. He is an openly gay, conservative who blogs for Atlantic Monthly. He begins this piece with, &quot;Slate asked me to reflect on my own failings of judgment on the fifth year of the war. Maybe the day we Christans are called to atonement is a good day for publishing it. It&#8217;s cross-posted <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2187098\/\">here<\/a><\/strong>.&quot; He is referring to his support for George W. Bush and for the War on Iraq. At least he&#8217;s an honest man. I have some empathy for part of his position &#8211; not the War, but about Bush&#8217;s election. At the time, I wasn&#8217;t horrified. I thought of Bush as a severly impaired lightweight. But I thought we&#8217;d coast through a term, then elect a real President. I, like all of us, didn&#8217;t see 911 coming. I didn&#8217;t know about Dick Cheney, or the Neoconservatives. I certainly didn&#8217;t support Bush, or even like him, but I guess I just thought of him as a summer re-run, and was waiting for the regular season to start back up in the fall. I share some of Sullivan&#8217;s mea culpa. I didn&#8217;t see this coming either.<\/div>\n<p>So about this War, I still don&#8217;t really get how Bush pushed it through. It was such an obvious mistake, even before it became crystal clear that it was about oil. As for Andrew Sullivan, I respect his candor. I wish there were more honest men like him&#8230; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Misreading Bush &#8230; Yes, the incompetence and arrogance were beyond anything I imagined. In 2000, my support for Bush was not deep. I thought he was an okay, unifying, moderate Republican who would be fine for a time of peace and prosperity. I was concerned &#8211; ha! &#8211; that Gore would spend too much. 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