{"id":20340,"date":"2012-02-27T14:21:05","date_gmt":"2012-02-27T19:21:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=20340"},"modified":"2012-02-27T18:26:40","modified_gmt":"2012-02-27T23:26:40","slug":"not-the-way-things-are-supposed-to-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/02\/27\/not-the-way-things-are-supposed-to-work\/","title":{"rendered":"not the way things are supposed to work&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/22351885\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Antipsychotics for Children and Young Adults:<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>      <strong><font color=\"#200020\">A Comparative Effectiveness Review<\/font><\/strong><br \/>        <sup>by Seida JC, Schouten JR, Boylan K, Newton AS, Mousavi SS, Beaith A, Vandermeer B, Dryden DM, and Carrey N.<\/sup><br \/>        <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Pediatrics<\/font><\/strong> 2012 Feb 20. [Epub ahead of print]<\/div>\n<p>      <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVE<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: Despite  increasing on-label and off-label use of antipsychotics, prescribing  antipsychotics to children remains controversial due to uncertainty of  their relative benefits and safety. We systematically reviewed the  effectiveness and safety of first- [FGA] and second-generation  antipsychotics [SGA] for patients aged &le;24 years with psychiatric and  behavioral conditions.<br \/>        <u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">METHODS<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: We searched 10 databases  from January 1987 to February 2011, gray literature, trial registries,  and reference lists. Two reviewers independently selected studies,  assessed methodologic quality, and graded the evidence. One reviewer  extracted, and a second verified, data. We summarized findings  qualitatively and conducted meta-analyses when appropriate.<br \/>        <u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">RESULTS<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: Sixty-four  trials and 17 cohort studies were included. Most trials had a high risk  of bias; cohort studies had moderate quality. All comparisons of FGAs  versus SGAs, FGAs versus FGAs, and FGAs versus placebo had low or  insufficient strength of evidence. There was moderate strength of  evidence for the following comparisons. Olanzapine caused more  dyslipidemia and weight gain, but fewer prolactin-related events, than  risperidone. Olanzapine caused more weight gain than quetiapine.  Compared with placebo, SGAs improved clinical global impressions  [schizophrenia, bipolar  and disruptive behavior disorders] and diminished positive and negative  symptoms [schizophrenia], behavior symptoms [disruptive behavior  disorders], and tics [Tourette syndrome].<br \/>        <u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">CONCLUSIONS<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: This  is the first comprehensive review comparing the effectiveness and  safety across the range of antipsychotics for children and young adults.  The evidence on the comparative benefits and harms of antipsychotics is  limited. Some SGAs have a better side effect profile than other SGAs.  Additional studies using head-to-head comparisons are needed.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">The benchmark for using toxic medications in treatment is oncology where there is an understandable tolerance for high risk\/benefit ratios. Elsewhere in medicine, the risk\/benefit information is part of a much more complex decision process. In psychiatry the use of antipsychotic medications is such an area, hotly contested, particularly in children. While the issues in this controversy can spill outside the boundaries of simply risk\/benefit ratios, risk\/benefit itself is hardly a clear part of the equation &#8211; made even more confusing by the introduction of the second generation antipsychotics [SGAs] twenty years ago.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">While the article above is about that risk\/benefit data, a meta-analysis with the subtext question of bias in the literature, this post is really about my own acquired bias over the last several years. It&#8217;s in the journal, <strong>Pediatrics<\/strong>, not the psychiatric literature, and it was compiled by a group of Canadians from a variety of disciplines. I realized when I ran across it that I was looking it up <em>expecting to trust what I read before I even read it<\/em> because it came from outside the <em>danger zone<\/em> &#8211; the pharmaceutical industry, the psychiatric literature, my own country, and away from our halls of academia. I think it&#8217;s a sad commentary that I would have that reaction &#8211; looking <em>outside my former reliable haunts<\/em> for the trustable information.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">The article itself didn&#8217;t disappoint. I liked this point in the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Methods<\/font><\/strong> at first glance:  <\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Quality Assessment and Grading the Body of Evidence<\/font><\/strong><\/u><br \/>   Two reviewers independently assessed the methodologic quality of studies and resolved discrepancies through consensus. We evaluated trials using the Cochrane Collaboration Risk of Bias tool and cohort studies using a modified Newcastle-Ottawa Scale. The source of funding was recorded for all studies.<\/p>\n<p>    Two reviewers graded the strength of the body of evidence using the AHRQ GRADE approach. The evidence was graded separately for each comparison and outcome. <strong><font color=\"#990000\">Four domains were assessed: risk of bias, consistency, directness, and precision. Based on the individual domains, we assigned an overall strength of evidence [SOE] grade of high, moderate, low, or insufficient.<\/font><\/strong> When no studies were available for an outcome or the evidence did not permit estimation of an effect, we rated the SOE as insufficient.<\/p>\n<p>    To determine the overall SOE score, we first considered the risk of bias domain. RCTs with a low risk of biaswere initially considered to have a &ldquo;high&rdquo; SOE, whereas RCTs with high risk of bias and well conducted cohort studies received an initial grade of &ldquo;moderate&rdquo; SOE. Low quality cohort studies received an initial grade of &ldquo;low&rdquo; SOE. The SOE was then upgraded or downgraded depending on the assessments of the remaining domains.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">This is a heavily truncated [by me] version of one of their tables to show the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Strength of Evidence<\/font><\/strong> in their efficacy assessments:  <\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"430\" border=\"0\" width=\"457\" vspace=\"5\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sga-1.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">And here&#8217;s a similarly truncated version of their <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Adverse Reactions <\/font><\/strong>assessment:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"623\" border=\"0\" width=\"457\" vspace=\"5\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sga-2.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<table cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"90%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"justify\">Let me hasten to add that I&#8217;ve removed all the numeric data from both tables for fit only. That&#8217;s not to say that those numbers are unimportant. Anyone wanting to use this study for any scientific purpose should look at the tables in full. My intent is not to degrade this article, quite the opposite. I want to call attention to it because I think they did a fair and honest job of vetting a literature so suffused with <em>opinion<\/em> and <em>bias<\/em> that it has been almost impossible to interpret.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p align=\"justify\">There&#8217;s a whole lot of low <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Strength of Evidence<\/font><\/strong> in both efficacy and adverse effects. We&#8217;ve had almost two decades of controversy around this topic &#8211; studies, articles in medical journals, blogs, articles in newspapers, FDA\/Industry debates, suits in our courts, and this is the bottom line, &quot;<strong><font color=\"#200020\">The evidence on the comparative benefits and harms of antipsychotics is  limited.<\/font><\/strong>&quot;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I said this blog post is about my own bias. Up front, I&#8217;m not thrilled about giving big medicines to little people, but I know that clinical situations arise where that becomes a real question. My point is that a doctor in those situations enters with very little in the way of solid risk\/benefit information to help make that kind of sticky decision, to give to parents to help them know what to do, or especially in situations like kids in foster care or institutions. That&#8217;s not the way things are supposed to work &#8211; not with potentially toxic drugs that have been around as long as these.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">My other bias is where I started. I felt trusting of this study because it was from Canada in a non-psychiatric journal done by people who weren&#8217;t <em>the usual suspects<\/em>. I&#8217;m outraged that I&#8217;ve been put in a situation where as an American doctor I don&#8217;t trust the American literature on this point, as a psychiatrist I don&#8217;t trust the psychiatric literature on this point, and that I automatically scan the list of authors, the funding sources, and the financial disclosures before I even read an article these days. That&#8217;s not the way things are supposed to work either&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Antipsychotics for Children and Young Adults: A Comparative Effectiveness Review by Seida JC, Schouten JR, Boylan K, Newton AS, Mousavi SS, Beaith A, Vandermeer B, Dryden DM, and Carrey N. Pediatrics 2012 Feb 20. [Epub ahead of print] BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVE: Despite increasing on-label and off-label use of antipsychotics, prescribing antipsychotics to children remains controversial [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20340","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20340","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20340"}],"version-history":[{"count":27,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20340\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20384,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20340\/revisions\/20384"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20340"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20340"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20340"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}