{"id":22579,"date":"2012-04-25T13:34:54","date_gmt":"2012-04-25T17:34:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=22579"},"modified":"2014-10-28T11:40:36","modified_gmt":"2014-10-28T15:40:36","slug":"suddenly-last-summer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/04\/25\/suddenly-last-summer\/","title":{"rendered":"<em>suddenly, last summer&#8230;<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/go.neiglobal.com\/Blog\/tabid\/83\/EntryId\/16\/Are-future-psychiatric-treatments-doomed-Be-careful-what-you-ask-for-you-just-might-get-it.aspx#Comments\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Are future psychiatric treatments doomed?<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>                            <sup><a href=\"http:\/\/go.neiglobal.com\/Blog\/tabid\/83\/EntryId\/16\/Are-future-psychiatric-treatments-doomed-Be-careful-what-you-ask-for-you-just-might-get-it.aspx#Comments\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Be careful what you ask for&#8230;you just might get it.<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><\/sup><br \/>                            <strong><font color=\"#200020\">NEI Blog<\/font><\/strong><br \/>                            <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Neuroscience Education Institute<\/font><\/strong><br \/>                            by Stephen Stahl<br \/>                            August 23, 2011<\/div>\n<p>              <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>Nobody   likes drug companies these days. Worse than tobacco companies and big   oil companies! Supposedly they have ruined CME and have corrupted   psychiatric experts as consultants, lecturers and research grant   recipients! Drug companies only engage in expensive patent extension   gimmickry and offer no true innovations! Let&rsquo;s criminalize the marketing   of psychiatric drugs, levy billions in fines to Pharma, force out  their  CEOs and even make them and their Pharma collaborators take the  &ldquo;perp  walk&rdquo; on their way to court in chains and orange jumpsuits and in  front  of the cameras! Get out of our professional societies! Get out  of our  journals! Get out of our medical centers! Good riddance!!!&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>            &#8230;the anti-psychiatry community, lights up the antipsychiatry blogs [e.g., Carlat] who attract the Pharmascolds, scientologists and antimedication crowd who believe either there is no such thing as mental illness, that medication should not be used, or both. Did you know that psychiatric illnesses are pure inventions of Pharma and their experts to treat patients that do not exist with drugs that are dangerous and do not work with the purpose only of profiting themselves? Stop the profits! Make mental illness go away by legislation and committee! Treat human mental suffering with love and peace and all will be well! Who needs mental health professionals and their diabolical drugs anyway?&#8230;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Last summer we were treated to Dr. Stahl&#8217;s <em>rant for all times<\/em>. It was my introduction to Dr. Stahl, a psychopharmacology evangelist extrordinaire. The premise of the article itself was absurd &#8211; that a group he called &quot;pharmascolds&quot; was responsible for the fact that PHARMA was pulling out of CNS [their term for psychiatric medications]. The latter point [PHARMA&#8217;s exodus] was news to me at the time. A month later, Stahl <a href=\"http:\/\/go.neiglobal.com\/Blog\/tabid\/83\/EntryId\/17\/Is-the-DSM-V-Necessary.aspx\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">wrote<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>I am blogging today from Paris at the ECNP [European College of  Neuropsychopharmacology] meeting, having attended the Royal Society of  Medicine meeting outside of London last week to discuss the future of  new drug development in psychiatry, paid by the taxpayers of the UK and  charities, not Pharma. This meeting involved US colleagues Tom Insel [head of the National Institute of Mental Health], David Kupfer [head of  DSM V rewrite], and several academic experts and industry executives  from the US and the UK and was covered by the BBC and a report of it  aired on UK television&#8230;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">At the same time, Tom Insel made a speech in London about PHARMA bailing out [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/343\/bmj.d5581.extract?ct\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Brain circuitry model for mental illness will transform management, NIH mental health director says<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>]. In his post below, Dr. David Healy mentions a speech by British Neuropsychopharmacologist, <strong><font color=\"#660033\">Dr. David Nutt<\/font><\/strong>, at the Royal College of Psychiatry in June 2011 that antedated this flurry of lamentations [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rcpsych.ac.uk\/pdf\/Nutt%20KN16.pdf\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">No Psychiatry Without Psychopharmacology<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>] &#8211; a speech that vilified Dr. Healy in an opening slide:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rcpsych.ac.uk\/pdf\/Nutt%20KN16.pdf#page=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" width=\"400\" vspace=\"7\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/nutt-1.jpg\" \/><\/a>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Healy&#8217;s response is priceless&#8230;           <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.madinamerica.com\/2012\/04\/scaremongerers-of-the-world-unite\/\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Scaremongerers of the World Unite<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>                                          <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Mad in America<\/font><\/strong><br \/>                                           by David Healy<br \/>                                           April 17, 2012 <\/div>\n<p>                 <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>At  a meeting of the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Brighton in  June  2011, Dave Nutt, a professor of psychiatry at Imperial College   London&nbsp;issued a call to arms to his audience at a plenary lecture to   defend psychiatry which in Dave&rsquo;s view meant defending   psychopharmacology. On a slide entitled <em>&lsquo;No Psychiatry Without Psychopharmacology&rsquo;<\/em>   he outlined the threats from treatment deniers like Irving Kirsch and   Joanna Moncrieff whom he claimed argued drugs don&rsquo;t work. Psychiatry is   also apparently threatened by illness deniers who claim that addiction   or shyness are just lifestyle options. Then labeling and libeling me a  Scaremongerer, he claimed psychiatry  was threatened by me. The first  point to note is that I was not held to  deny the reality of illness nor held to say that treatments don&rsquo;t work.<\/p>\n<p>                As  regards the risks of drugs, pharmaceutical companies are quick to  sue  people who claim that treatments have risks if they cannot back up   their claims with evidence. As we have seen in the first post in this   series almost everything I write or say at meetings is scrutinized with a   view to suing me. Calling someone a Scaremongerer, as a matter of   logic, should be all but an oxymoron &ndash; such a beast cannot exist. The   only risks that can be mongered are ones that are real. If these risks   are real, should they be regarded as scares? If the argument is that it  is fear that is being mongered,  pharmaceutical companies monger fear  the whole time. Leave your child&rsquo;s  depression untreated and she will  grow up to be alcoholic, a drug  abuser, will have a failed career and  marriage and ultimately commit  suicide. Leaving your anxiety or  depression untreated while pregnant and  your child is likely to be born  with a birth defect. If medicine is going to save itself, if it is  going to remain a  profession, it is time to embrace the duties given it  in 1951 and again  in 1962 when drugs were made available on  prescription-only.  Doctors warn people about the risks of  over-the-counter products &ndash; like  patent medicines or tobacco. Prescription-only  medicines are  prescription only precisely because they are riskier  than  over-the-counter drugs. If they are no riskier than alcohol or  nicotine,  which people can manage on their own, why have them on   prescription-only. Doctors are there to quarry information out of   pharmaceutical companies about these risks &ndash; not to be a risk-denying   conduit for drugs.<\/p>\n<p>                Dave, who I used to think of as a friend or at least  a colleague, has  form in this area. He has instigated investigations  of me by the  General Medical Council, aimed it would seem at getting me  debarred from practice. After this lecture, I sent an email asking for  the slide branding me a  scaremonger &ndash; it&rsquo;s one to treasure &ndash; but he  didn&rsquo;t respond. Dave has another role which is  agitating on behalf of the  pharmaceutical industry &ndash; making regulations  less onerous and the  environment more company friendly so companies  don&rsquo;t move jobs  elsewhere&#8230; The thrust of a series of  recent posts here &#8230;  is that if doctors cannot be  identified as the people who know about  the risks of drugs, they are  likely to go out of business. They should  be scaremongerers in other  words.<\/p>\n<p>                Now is the time for doctors to come  out of the closet. We urgently  need to develop Scaremonger Pride to  match Black, Gay and Mad Pride. I&rsquo;m open to nominations for a Dave Nutt  Prize for most effective  Scaremongering of the Year for 2011 and would  urge everyone to keep  track of possible nominees for 2012. You can  nominate the person who in  your opinion did the most to alert others to  a hitherto unknown or  poorly recognized substantial risk from some  treatment.&nbsp;Anne-Marie or Rosie Meysenburg would be good candidates for  2011.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">My blog title, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Suddenly,_Last_Summer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Suddenly, Last Summer<\/font><\/strong><\/a>, obviously popped into my head because we were suddenly told in a flurry about PHARMA&#8217;s retreat from CNS last summer &#8211; but when I thought about it, it&#8217;s the title of a favorite Tennessee Williams southern gothic play [later made into a movie with Katherine Hepburn, Montgomery Clift, and Elizabeth Taylor]:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>Catharine Holly, a poor relation of prominent New Orleans family seems to be <span class=\"mw-redirect\">insane<\/span> after her cousin Sebastian dies on a trip to Europe under mysterious circumstances. Sebastian&#8217;s mother, Violet Venable, trying to cloud the truth about her son&#8217;s pedophilia and death, threatens to lobotomize Catharine for her incoherent utterances relating to Sebastian&#8217;s demise. Under the influence of a <span class=\"mw-redirect\">truth serum<\/span>, Catharine tells the gruesome story of Sebastian&#8217;s death by cannibalism  at the hand of local boys whose sexual favors he sought, using  Catharine as a device to attract the young men [as he had earlier used  his mother].<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">It&#8217;s a story about a <em>whistle-blower<\/em> and the desperate attempts to shut her up by claiming that she was crazy &#8211; &quot;cutting out her story&quot; by lobotomy. In offering that title, my unconscious revealed exactly how I see people like Allen Jones and David Healy &#8211; people who caught a glimpse of something dreadfully wrong and had their lives changed by it. In the writings about Group Therapy, they&#8217;re called <em>truth-sayers<\/em> and are attacked and ostracized by the group because they can&#8217;t let go of a painful truth once they know it. In classic drama, the truth-sayer role is often filled by a fool, a court jester, a sooth-sayer or magus, perhaps the chorus on the side &#8211; someone who is or becomes an <em>outsider<\/em>. And as some of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/01\/14\/18241\/#comment-218231\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">commenters<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> here have pointed out, the fate of such people is difficult &#8211; whether successful or not.         <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"1\" align=\"left\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"93\" src=\"http:\/\/www.viennadeclaration.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Writing-Committee-David-Nutt-Post-Thumb-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"David Nutt\" title=\"David Nutt\" \/>Dr. Healy is no stranger to being discounted because of his determination to talk about the truth of Akathisia and suicidality in some patients on SSRIs &#8211; something he ran across as a clinician early in his career as a biological psychiatrist. In 2001, he lost a job in Toronto in a now famous encounter with the infamous Dr. Charlie Nemeroff  after lecturing on his findings [<u><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/01\/22\/before-that-became-cool\/\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">before that became cool!&hellip;<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/u>]. In the contemporary version, Dr. Nutt can&#8217;t bring off discounting Healy as part of some fringe group [a <em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">treatment denier<\/font><\/strong><\/em> or an <em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">illness denier<\/font><\/strong><\/em>], so he gives Healy his own category [<em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">scaremonger<\/font><\/strong><\/em>] implying that Healy has some crazy motive to invoke fear in others. Dr. Healy uses this moniker, <em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">scaremonger<\/font><\/strong><\/em>, to point out the essential tragedy in this whole story. Warning patients accurately about the dangers of medications and conveying their true efficacy is, in fact, the delegated job of physicians. It&#8217;s the reason we were given prescribing privileges in the first place! Healy&#8217;s point highlights the absurdity of Nutt&#8217;s next slide:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rcpsych.ac.uk\/pdf\/Nutt%20KN16.pdf#page=1\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" width=\"400\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/nutt-3.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">It is the point that Dr. Healy fleshes out in his recent book, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Pharmageddon-David-Healy\/dp\/0520270983\"><u><strong><font color=\"#990000\">Pharmageddon<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>. And Dr. Nutt has things backwards. What has and will put &quot;Psychiatry under threat as a Medical Discipline&quot; is actually the &quot;undue focus on &#8230; benefits&quot; &#8211; <strong><font color=\"#200020\">AKA lying<\/font><\/strong>&#8230; <\/p>\n<hr width=\"75%\" size=\"1\" \/>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>There is an irony in this story. Dr. Nutt himself was a truth-sayer. In 2008, he became Chairman of the&nbsp; <u><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Advisory_Council_on_the_Misuse_of_Drugs\" title=\"Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs\"><font color=\"#200020\">Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/u>. He was an outspoken advocate for basing the laws about street drugs on their true <\/em><em>evidence-based dangers &#8211; publishing this graph in <strong>The Lancet<\/strong>:<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" width=\"300\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/nutt-2.gif\" \/><\/a>      <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>In 2009, Dr. Nutt was <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/blogs\/thereporters\/markeaston\/2009\/10\/nutt_gets_the_sack.html\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">fired<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><em> from this appointment because of his own <\/em><em>truth-saying about Street Drugs [and one has to wonder where the prescription medications Nutt both promotes and defends would fall on his own graph].<\/em><\/p>\n<hr width=\"75%\" size=\"1\" \/>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>As you know, we&#8217;ve had a recent meeting in the US along similar lines [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/psychnews.psychiatryonline.org\/newsArticle.aspx?articleid=1096598\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">APF Convenes Unique Pipeline Summit<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>] to last summer&#8217;s meeting in London &#8211; another attempt to make CNS drug development easier in order to keep PHARMA in the CNS Market. In both of these meetings, scaremongering was a central theme &#8211; it will take 40 years to retool if PHARMA leaves, we will have no new drugs to offer our patients, and the implied, without a robust psychopharmacologic pipeline, psychiatry will wither and die.<\/em><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Are future psychiatric treatments doomed? Be careful what you ask for&#8230;you just might get it. NEI Blog Neuroscience Education Institute by Stephen Stahl August 23, 2011 Nobody likes drug companies these days. Worse than tobacco companies and big oil companies! 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