{"id":24714,"date":"2012-06-24T22:28:26","date_gmt":"2012-06-25T02:28:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=24714"},"modified":"2012-06-24T22:28:26","modified_gmt":"2012-06-25T02:28:26","slug":"a-thought-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/06\/24\/a-thought-2\/","title":{"rendered":"a thought&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/salt-marsh.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><u><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/dxrevisionwatch.wordpress.com\/2012\/06\/21\/three-professional-organization-responses-to-third-and-final-dsm-5-stakeholder-review\/\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">Three professional organization responses to third and final DSM-5 stakeholder review<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/u><br \/>           <strong><font color=\"#200020\">dxrevisionwatch<\/font><\/strong><br \/>          by Suzy Chapman<br \/>          June 21, 2012<\/div>\n<p>         <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>No publication of field trial data<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>        Following posting of the third draft on May 2, it was anticipated APA would publish full results from the <em>DSM-5<\/em>&nbsp;field trials <em>&ldquo;within a month&rdquo;<\/em>. <em>[Source: <u><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.medscape.com\/viewarticle\/763519\" title=\"Medscape Medical News Deborah Brauser 05.08.12\" target=\"_blank\">Deborah Brauser&nbsp;for Medscape&nbsp;Medical News: interview with Darrel Regier, May 8, 2012<\/a><\/strong><\/u>.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>             No report emerged and stakeholders had  little choice but submit feedback on this latest iteration without the  benefit of scrutiny of reliability data to inform their submissions. APA has yet to account for&nbsp;its failure to  place its field trial results in the public domain while the feedback  exercise was in progress, other than releasing some Kappa data at its  May 5-9 Annual Conference.<\/p>\n<p>             American Psychiatric Association CEO and Medical Director, James H. Scully, Jr., M.D., blogs at <u><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/james-h-scully-jr-md\/dsm-5_b_1560280.html\" title=\"Huffington Post James H Skully 05.31.12\" target=\"_blank\">Huffington Post<\/a><\/strong><\/u>.  Last week, I asked Dr Scully why the field trial report has been  withheld; whether Task Force still intends publishing field trial  data&nbsp;and when that report might now be anticipated. I&rsquo;ve received no response from Dr Scully and APA has put out no clarification&#8230;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.medscape.com\/viewarticle\/763519\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">DSM-5 Field Trials Generate Mixed Results<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>        <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Medscape<\/font><\/strong><br \/>         by Deborah Brauser<br \/>        May 8, 2012<\/div>\n<p>       <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>Members of the task force said they hope to publish the full results  &quot;within a month.&quot; However, the third and final public comment period for    the manual opened last week and ends on June 15. Although the entire  period is 6 weeks long, the public may only have 2 weeks to comment    after the publication of the field trials&#8217; findings.<\/p>\n<p>           However, according to Dr. Regier, the release of the field trials  results has not been seen as linked to the public comment period. &quot;These preliminary data analyses were to directly inform the Work  Groups on the results so that they could consider the reliability of  their   formulations as well as the clinical utility and feasibility of  the proposed changes. Although the general public may be interested in  these results, it   is more important to have them reviewed by  scientific peers before they are entered into the scientific  literature,&quot; Dr. Regier told <em>Medscape   Medical News<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>           &quot;These will form a part of the basis not only for the current  revision but for future revisions as well. The analysis, peer-review,  and publication   process usually takes quite a bit more time than 2  weeks to a month. We will certainly make these findings available for  clinicians, scientists, and   the public as soon as possible &mdash; possibly  online ahead of print if the chosen journal is able to provide this  service. What we were able to   do at the annual meeting is provide an  overview and preliminary presentation of some of the most important  findings. However, much more   detailed information will be needed for a  thorough evaluation of these findings in the peer review and  publication process,&quot; he added&#8230;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I guess this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dsm5.org\/Research\/Pages\/DSM-5FieldTrials.aspx\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">quote<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> from the DSM-5 site is no longer operative:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>After completion of the DSM-5 Field Trials,&nbsp;work group members will make  any necessary revisions to their draft criteria. These revised criteria  will be posted online, and this site will once again be open to  submission of public comments.<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I was sitting in a boat on a very peaceful salt-marsh not thinking about much of anything, and I had a quick thought pass through that I marked for later pondering. It was about this business of not reporting the Field Trial results during the public comment period. We&#8217;ve known that the Field Trial results must&#8217;ve been problematic from January 1 when they published <a href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/article.aspx?volume=169&#038;page=13\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">DSM-5: How Reliable Is Reliable Enough<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><strong><font color=\"#200020\">?<\/font><\/strong>. So when they reported on the results in early May at the APA Meeting, the dismal numbers were no surprise. Nor am I totally surprised that they didn&#8217;t publish them. The thought I had last week wasn&#8217;t just about that. It was, &quot;<em>I don&#8217;t believe them.<\/em>&quot; For example, I don&#8217;t believe this statement is true:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>&#8230;according to Dr. Regier, the release of the field trials  results has  not been seen as linked to the public comment period. &quot;These preliminary  data analyses were to directly inform the Work  Groups on the results  so that they could consider the reliability of  their   formulations as  well as the clinical utility and feasibility of  the proposed changes.&quot;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">And I don&#8217;t believe this either: <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>The analysis, peer-review,  and publication   process usually takes  quite a bit more time than 2  weeks to a month&#8230;<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"> They already had the Field Trial results well before the May meeting. I think they&#8217;re telling us what they want us to believe, adjusting their story in this case to the results they&#8217;d rather us not see. It&#8217;s a chronic pattern of &quot;spin&quot; apparent from their first response to Dr. Frances [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.psychiatrictimes.com\/display\/article\/10168\/1425806\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Setting the Record Straight: A Response to Frances Commentary on DSM-V<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>]. Every time I read something they say, my mind starts arguing with it. I just don&#8217;t believe them&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Three professional organization responses to third and final DSM-5 stakeholder review dxrevisionwatch by Suzy Chapman June 21, 2012 No publication of field trial data Following posting of the third draft on May 2, it was anticipated APA would publish full results from the DSM-5&nbsp;field trials &ldquo;within a month&rdquo;. 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