{"id":26717,"date":"2012-09-02T23:39:12","date_gmt":"2012-09-03T03:39:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=26717"},"modified":"2012-09-03T15:15:14","modified_gmt":"2012-09-03T19:15:14","slug":"the-lesson-of-study-329-the-hurdles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/09\/02\/the-lesson-of-study-329-the-hurdles\/","title":{"rendered":"the lesson of Study 329: the hurdles\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Flash forward<\/font><\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n<table width=\"95%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#2e1c36\"><sup><u><strong><font color=\"#2e1c36\">Breakthroughs in the Treatment of Child and Adolescent Depression &amp; Anxiety<\/font><\/strong><\/u><br \/>                                             <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"101\" vspace=\"3\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/wagner.jpg\" \/>Children grow out of shoes and clothes, but the odds say it is unlikely they will outgrow depression. A depressed child is twice as likely to be a depressed adult, according to Dr. Karen Wagner, a leading child psychiatrist. Dr. Wagner spoke to Neuroscience consultants at the launch meeting in Los Angeles. Dr. Wagner is Director of the Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the Vice Chair of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the University of Texas Medical Branch. Her message about major depression was that &quot;it is a lethal disorder and it requires treatment.&quot;<\/sup><\/font><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#2e1c36\"><sup><u><strong><font color=\"#2e1c36\">Threat of suicide<\/font><\/strong><\/u><br \/>                                             Dr. Wagner pointed out that depression in adolescents can lead to suicide for 2.5% of those diagnosed with depression. Left untreated, the percentage rises to 8% as they become adults. Obviously, therapy is needed and Paxil is one of the few pharmaceutical approaches that has safety and efficacy data to support its use in this patient population. And more data is on its way. As many of you know, SB is preparing an indication for adolescent depression for Paxil next year! SB&#8217;s clinical study demonstrating the success of Paxil in treating depression among adolescents will be published in a peer reviewed journal during first quarter 2000&hellip;<\/sup><\/font><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p align=\"justify\">It&#8217;s hard to recapture the ethos of recent history. It&#8217;s still too nearby for editorializing. This is as close as I can get. It was extracted from a SmithKline Beecham newsletter, <u><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/qmu38h10\"><strong><font color=\"#2e1c36\"><em>Nulli Secundus<\/em><\/font><\/strong><\/a><\/u> [<em>second to none<\/em>] dated December 8, 1999. Dr. Wagner is showing a slide of all the drugs that were in clinical trials for pediatric depression and is proudly announcing that Paxil&#8217;s success would be published in a <em>peer reviewed<\/em> journal, and would soon to be submitted for <em>FDA approval<\/em> for adolescents [we now know from <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/jru38h10\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">subpoenaed documents<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> that a year earlier, SKB had decided that Study 329 was too weak to submit for approval, but let&#8217;s not be picky]. Notice the emphasis on <em>peer reviewed journal<\/em>. Peer review is the stamp of approval throughout academia. It means that an article has been closely-read by other scholars in the field and approved as a meaningful contribution to the literature. By this time, it had taken on an additional meaning in psychiatry, particularly with industry-funded studies. It meant that the article was no longer relegated to the free throw-away medical journals that fill our mailboxes on the way to the waste-can. It was essentially certified as a non-advertisement [or at least that&#8217;s what it was supposed to mean]. Publication in a <em>peer reviewed journal<\/em> and <em>FDA Approval<\/em> mean the drug can be directly advertised [and in a practical sense mean millions, perhaps billions, in revenue for the life of the patent]. So maybe they wouldn&#8217;t submit Paxil to the FDA for adolescents after all, but with a published article, it might be prescribed widely &quot;off-label.&quot;<\/p>\n<table width=\"95%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#2e1c36\"><sup><u><strong><font color=\"#2e1c36\">SB&#8217;s advantage<\/font><\/strong><\/u><br \/>                                              Dr. Wagner said the window of opportunity is before SB. Several other competing SSRIs and other compounds have studies ongoing. But Paxil and Prozac are the only two SSRIs that have any published data to date and many physicians have already found success in treating adolescent patients with Paxil&hellip;<\/sup><\/font><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>[Well. Maybe <em>second to one<\/em>&hellip;]<\/p>\n<hr width=\"90%\" size=\"1\" \/>\n<p align=\"center\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Flash back<\/font><\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"120\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"102\" border=\"1\" align=\"left\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/hurdle.jpg\" \/>The Study 329 article had fallen on the first hurdle out of the gate when the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">Journal of the American Medical Association<\/font><\/strong>&nbsp; turned it down, a submission in line with their <a href=\"http:\/\/pogoarchives.org\/m\/ph\/gw\/gw-attachments.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">longstanding plan<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> of encouraging Primary Care Physicians to treat depression [with Paxil]. The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/hpu38h10\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">reviewers<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> pointed to the low HAM-D [12] cut-off, the effect of supportive care, the high Placebo response, the small or absent differences in rating scales, the significant incidence of Serious Side Effects with Paroxetine, and the inappropriate dosing of Imipramine. The rejection letter suggested submitting the article to the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">Archives of General Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>. In a letter to Jim McCafferty of SKB, Sally Laden had <a href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/epu38h10\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">other ideas<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> [December 7, 1999]:<\/div>\n<ul><sup><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Dr Keller submitted the manuscript to JAMA in early August, 1999. The journal elected not to publish the paper and notified Dr Keller in November. In a conference call in November involving Drs Keller, Ryan, and Strober and Jim McCafferty, the action plan itemized below was agreed upon:<\/div>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">Sally Laden and Jim McCafferty will summarize the reviewers&#8217; extensive comments and draft a memo outlining the changes to be made.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">This memo will be circulated to all authors for their review and approval.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">The current draft will be revised and circulated to all authors for review and approval.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">The revised manuscript will be submitted to <strong><font color=\"#400040\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<div align=\"justify\">Resubmitting this manuscript is our top priority, and we will be asking for rapid review when we send materials to the authors&#8230;<\/div>\n<p><\/sup><\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">In late <a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/20000426LadentoMcCafferty.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">April 2000<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>. Sally Laden wrote Jim McCafferty [GSK] apologizing for a delay and circulating a revised draft. The plan was still to submit it to the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>. But then, in June 2000, there&#8217;s a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/20000426LadentoMcCafferty.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">confusing document<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>. The cover page says, &quot;<em>Comments from 3 JAMA reviewers and suggested revisions to be made before submitting to the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>.<\/em>&quot; But then the next page is a letter to Dr. Keller from Erika Dankovitz of STI saying,<\/div>\n<ol><sup><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">We are pleased to enclose all of the necessary materials for you to submit your manuscript, &quot;Efficacy of Paroxetine but Not Imipramlne in the Treatment of Adolescent Major Depression: A Randomized, Controlled Trial,&quot; to the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">Journal of the American<\/font><\/strong> <strong><font color=\"#400040\">Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>, Please find enclosed the following items;                    <\/p>\n<ul>&bull; Five copies of the manuscript (submit four to the journal; keep one for your files)<br \/>            &bull; One set of glossy prints of the figures (submit to the journal)<br \/>            &bull; A draft cover letter to Dr Dulcan, editor of.JAACAP (please retype on your letterhead and revise, as you like)<br \/>            &bull; A diskette containing your manuscript in Microsoft Word 97 format for your use in the, event revisions are needed<br \/>            &bull; Your disclosure information (submit to the journal).<\/ul>\n<p>          On behalf of Sally Laden, it has been a pleasure working with you on this project, Please keep us apprised of the status of the paper. If revisions are required, we will be happy to assist you&#8230;<\/p><\/div>\n<p><\/sup><\/ol>\n<div align=\"justify\">followed by the advertised comments and revisions. I can&#8217;t find anything that explains the abrupt change of target journal, but by the end of July 2000, Dr. Dulcan, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/20000627Dulcantokeller.pdf\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">wrote to Dr. Keller<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>, sending him the completed reviews and the information about formatting for the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">JAACAP<\/font><\/strong>:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" vspace=\"5\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/gsk-41.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The <a href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/sou38h10\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">reviews<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> began with &quot;<em>However, the results do not clearly demonstrate efficacy for paroxetine<\/em>.&quot;  Throughout, the reviewers made challenging points:<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" vspace=\"7\" height=\"175\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/gsk-40.gif\" \/>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>                        And in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/20000425draftVI.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">version of the paper<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> they received, the abstract said:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" vspace=\"5\" height=\"100\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/gsk-39.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">So the reviewers wanted to know where the <em>a priori<\/em> primary variables were, why they weren&#8217;t separated out. They wanted to know the rationale for not using the Bonferroni Correction for multiple outcomes. One reviewer commented, &quot;<em>The authors should not overstate the efficacy of paroxetine.<\/em>&quot; After several rounds of exchanges with the reviewers [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/responsetoJAACAPReviews.pdf\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">November 2000<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/bpu38h10\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">January 2001<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>], the paper was accepted in <strong><font color=\"#200020\">February 2001<\/font><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"90%\" size=\"1\" \/>\n<p align=\"center\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">The Editorial<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The peer reviewers did their jobs, both at the JAMA [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/hpu38h10\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">1<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>][<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/ResponsestoJAMA.pdf\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">2<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>] and the JAACAP [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/sou38h10\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">3<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>][<a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/responsetoJAACAPReviews.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong>4<\/strong><\/u><\/a>][<a href=\"http:\/\/dida.library.ucsf.edu\/pdf\/bpu38h10\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong>5<\/strong><\/u><\/a>]. I would&#8217;ve been happier if they had said something like &quot;<em>This is an industry-sponsored study that is deceitfully written and does not support its conclusion. It should not be published<\/em>.&quot; But they pointed out the weaknesses and challenged the conclusions. They told the editorial boards enough to make sensible publications decisions.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I find the abrupt change of targeted journal from the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> to the <strong><font color=\"#400040\">Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> in&nbsp; the summer of 2000 suggestive that there&#8217;s some piece of the back story here that remains in the clouds. It came out of left field. Dr. Dulcan&#8217;s letter to Dr. Keller initiates the process of publication in spite of what seem to me to be terminal comments from the reviewers. And the friendly &quot;<em>Dear <strike>Dr. Keller<\/strike> Marty<\/em>&quot; salutation just fuels my suspicions. These things look much worse under the magnifying glass of all the information available from subpoenaed documents &#8211; the industry management of the study, the ghost writing, etc. But that&#8217;s the story we have to work with, and some kind of political dealings would explain the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/20000426LadentoMcCafferty.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">confusing document<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a> of June 2000. There&#8217;s no substantiating documents that I can locate, so I&#8217;m left with only a suspicious mind [in this case, I&#8217;m at least justified in that].<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">The paper itself reads very oddly because of the many changes made to respond to the reviewers [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/files\/docs\/gsk\/paroxetine\/study329\/firsttofinaldraft.doc\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">here<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>&#8216;s a copy annotated by <em>Healthy Skepticism<\/em> comparing the first and last draft]. But there are four things that remain essentially unchanged throughout the whole process:<\/div>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">Table 2, the outcome parameters with no annotation of primary or secondary and the addition of the first parameter [HAM-D <u>&lt;<\/u> 8] invented after the fact.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">Table 3, the listing of Adverse Effects with no annotation of Serious Adverse Effects and with suicidality filed under &quot;emotional lability.&quot;<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">A conclusion [&quot;<em>Paroxetine is generally well tolerated and effective for major depression in adolescents<\/em>&quot;] that is unsupported by the paper itself.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\">The list of outcome parameters that lack the <em>Bonferroni Correction<\/em> mandated by the number of outcomes reported, a correction that would leave them with only 1\/8 outcomes reaching  significance.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<div align=\"justify\">All four of these things are deal-breaking flaws that survived the editorial process. All four are visible to a careful reader even without knowing the <em>back story<\/em>. All four should have been visible to the journal&#8217;s editor&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Flash forward: Breakthroughs in the Treatment of Child and Adolescent Depression &amp; Anxiety Children grow out of shoes and clothes, but the odds say it is unlikely they will outgrow depression. A depressed child is twice as likely to be a depressed adult, according to Dr. Karen Wagner, a leading child psychiatrist. 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