{"id":2790,"date":"2009-01-07T22:14:57","date_gmt":"2009-01-08T03:14:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=2790"},"modified":"2009-01-08T00:03:14","modified_gmt":"2009-01-08T05:03:14","slug":"very-carefulhellip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/01\/07\/very-carefulhellip\/","title":{"rendered":"very careful&hellip;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/washingtonbureau.typepad.com\/law\/2009\/01\/yoo-and-bybee-war-memos-revealed-1.html\">Yoo and Bybee war memos revealed<\/a><\/strong><br \/>         \t \t \t\t \t\t\t <strong>Marisa Taylor of McClatchy&#8217;s D.C. bureau reports:<\/strong><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Former Justice Department attorneys John Yoo and Jay Bybee are known for their memos on torture, but little was known about their role in the lead-up to war with Iraq. Until now.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">A string of previously secret memos recently released to the Senate Judiciary Committee by the Justice Department reveals Yoo&#8217;s and Bybee&#8217;s part in crafting the controversial legal justification for going to war.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">In a <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-UseOfMilitaryForce.pdf\">memo<\/a><\/strong> dated Oct. 23, 2002, Bybee argues that President Bush &quot;possesses constitutional authority for ordering the use of force against Iraq to protect our national itnerests.&quot; In fact, he says, the president never lost the power to declare war on Iraq because Congress gave it to the president&#8217;s father in 1991.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Yoo supplements those arguments in two other memos dated November 8, 2002 and December 7, 2002. He concluded that the could argue that Iraq committed a &ldquo;material breach&rdquo; of a United Nations Security Council Resolution, an assertion that would become one of the administration&rsquo;s main justifications for going to war. In one lengthy section, Yoo expounds on the meaning of the word &ldquo;and&rdquo; and concludes that it should not be construed as a conjunction.  <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"MsoNormal\">Scott Silliman, a former Air Force judge advocate who has been critical of the administration&rsquo;s sweeping assertion of executive powers, said the memos appear &ldquo;designed to give the president the answer he wants.&rdquo;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"MsoNormal\">&ldquo;What they did was construct an argument to support the answer,&rdquo; he said.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"MsoNormal\">&nbsp;See <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-UNSecurityCouncilResolution.pdf\">memo<\/a><\/strong> here and another memo <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-FurtherMaterialBreach.pdf\">here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Yet another memo, <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-ProtectedPersons.pdf\">written by former Office of Legal Counsel head Jack Goldsmith<\/a><\/strong>, it asserts that prisoners in Iraq can be transferred outside the country for interrogations. The memo was used by the CIA to justify the practice known as rendition, in which the CIA moved prisoners to secret prisons. Many international law experts have since criticized the practice as violating the Geneva Conventions.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">The <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-FurtherMaterialBreach.pdf\">December 7, 2002<\/a><\/strong> memo is a complete hoot, even by John Yoo standards.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Specifically, paragraph 3 requires Iraq to provide to the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and the Security Council a &middot;&middot;currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its WMD program. Id.,&#8217; 3. Paragraph 4 provides:<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<ul><sup>that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution <font color=\"#990000\"><em><strong>and<\/strong><\/em><\/font> failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq&#8217;s obligations and will be reported to the Council for assessment in accordance with paragraphs 11 and 12 below.<\/sup><\/ul>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">This introduces a three page discussion of the meaning of the word <em><strong>and<\/strong><\/em>. It&#8217;s one big spellbinder of a discussion. It&#8217;s worth reading just to see the lengths these people went to find a way to break our laws. These memos are as absurd as Yoo&#8217;s previous offerings. Instead of legal opinions, they are guides about how to get around the meaning of very clear laws &#8211; as tortured as that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/01\/05\/opinion\/05bolton.html?_r=4\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>op-ed<\/strong><\/a> he and John Bolton wrote this week. I dub him <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Pretzel John Yoo<\/strong><\/font> for his ability to twist the facts beyond all recognition.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m of course sorry to see that <strong>Jack Goldsmith<\/strong> also drank the Koolaide. <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/judiciary.senate.gov\/resources\/documents\/upload\/010509OLCDoc-ProtectedPersons.pdf\"><strong>This memo<\/strong><\/a> is from the same month that he and <strong>James Comey<\/strong> kept <strong>Alberto Gonzales<\/strong> from getting the ailing <strong>John Ashcroft<\/strong> to certify the NSA Domestic Spying policies. So maybe that&#8217;s when he caught on to how crazy the Administration he was working for really was. But he did certify rendition. Shame on Jack.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">And then there&#8217;s this <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/01\/06\/by-the-book\/\"><strong>Cheyney-ism<\/strong><\/a> I was reporting about yesterday:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>CHENEY:<\/strong> I would hope [Obama] would avoid doing what others have done in the past, which is letting the campaign rhetoric guide his judgment in this absolutely crucial area&hellip; <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>We were very careful, we did everything by the book<\/strong><\/font>, and in fact we produced very significant results<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">When Cheney says &quot;We were very careful,&quot; what he means is that he and his alter-ego David Addintgon got mad-man John Yoo to construct these Memos to cover their rear ends so they could say later say, &quot;We were very careful, we did everything by the book.&quot; <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>And <em>by the book<\/em> they started an unprovoked war by popularizing false intelligence, they secretly rescinded the Geneva Conventions, and farmed out prisoners of war to be tortured in other countries<\/strong><\/font>.<\/div>\n<p>  <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">These specific memos from Yoo were designed to rationalize Bush going to War with Iraq without consulting Congress, even though the Constitution&nbsp; specifically places the War Powers in the hands of the Legislative Branch. I guess that somebody realized that Yoo&#8217;s memos were so ridiculous that they ought to go to Plan B. Plan B was to trump up some intelligence that they could sell to Congress to get War Powers &#8211; and it worked. Weapons of Mass Destruction, Iraq Al Qaeda ties. In some ways, I wish they&#8217;d used John Yoo&#8217;s Memos, because this would have come to light much earlier. Maybe the Bush Administration might have been stopped earlier. Maybe the 2004 election would have gone differently. But, as the poet says:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>What might have been is an abstraction<br \/>   Remaining a perpetual possibility<br \/>   Only in a world of speculation.<br \/>   What might have been and what has been<br \/>   Point to one end, which is always present.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yoo and Bybee war memos revealed Marisa Taylor of McClatchy&#8217;s D.C. bureau reports: Former Justice Department attorneys John Yoo and Jay Bybee are known for their memos on torture, but little was known about their role in the lead-up to war with Iraq. Until now. 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