{"id":29410,"date":"2012-10-25T21:36:44","date_gmt":"2012-10-26T01:36:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=29410"},"modified":"2012-10-25T22:48:43","modified_gmt":"2012-10-26T02:48:43","slug":"ggg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/10\/25\/ggg\/","title":{"rendered":"GGG&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.medscape.com\/index\/section_10173_0\" target=\"_blank\"><u><font color=\"#200020\">Antidepressant Study Stirs Controversy<\/font><\/u><\/a><\/strong><br \/>      <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Medscape Medical News &gt; Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong><br \/>      by Fran Lowry<br \/>      Oct&nbsp;22,&nbsp;2012<\/div>\n<p>    <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>A recent meta-analysis concluding that 2   antidepressants neither increased nor decreased suicidal thoughts and behavior in children is flawed,             Harvard researchers say. However, the   authors of the study stand by their article and its conclusion.&nbsp;          The study, led by Robert Gibbons, PhD, of the University of Chicago, in Illinois, was published in the <em>Archives of General Psychiatry   <\/em>and reported by             <em>Medscape Medical News. <\/em>In a letter to the news editor of<em> Medscape Psychiatry<\/em>, Matthew J. Miller, MD, MPH, from the Harvard School of Public Health, in   Boston, Massachusetts, asserts that the study&#8217;s             conclusion was &quot;misleading.&quot;          <\/p>\n<p>                            Far from indicating that the antidepressant-suicide link in  youth is absent, the data continue to show what the US Food and             Drug   Administration [FDA] data show, a 2-fold increase in  suicidal thoughts and ideation among children treated with fluoxetine,             Dr. Miller writes.          He and colleagues Tyler VanderWeele, PhD, and Sonja Swanson also wrote a letter to the editor of the <em>Archives of General   Psychiatry<\/em> outlining their concerns about the investigators&#8217; interpretation of the antidepressant data. The letter was published as             a Comment.          <\/p>\n<p>                            &quot;Gibbons&#8217; study of highly selected placebo-controlled  randomized studies of antidepressants [n = 9,185] is framed as a  counterpoint             to and   advance over the much larger meta-analyses  conducted by the FDA [n = 99,839] that found a 2-fold increased risk of             suicidal thoughts and   behaviors among children and young  adults randomized to antidepressants, and a decreased risk in older             adults,&quot; Dr. Miller notes.          <\/p>\n<p>                            But in reanalyzing these data, Dr. Gibbons and colleagues use mediation analyses, which are subject to bias, the group states. &quot;We know there are lots of analytic techniques that can distort the findings,&quot; Dr. Miller told <em>Medscape Medical News<\/em> in an interview.   &quot;Gibbons was very selective in the studies that he chose to evaluate.&quot;&nbsp;          According to Dr. Miller, the use of mediation analysis in this instance broke the randomization and introduced bias. In spite of this, the findings still show that there is a statistically significant harmful direct effect of treatment on             suicide risk in youth that is not   discussed, he said.          <\/p>\n<p>                            &quot;Even acknowledging that the technique he used could  introduce bias and that he didn&#8217;t attempt to use techniques that have             been around,   trying to mitigate that potential bias, what  he actually found but did not highlight in his paper is exactly             what you&#8217;d expect from a study this size   &mdash; namely, that  there was a harmful effect of those who were put on antidepressants             compared with those put on placebo.          <\/p>\n<p>                            &quot;The finding didn&#8217;t reach statistical significance. He had a <em>P<\/em>  value of 0.17, as opposed to less than 0.05, but that&#8217;s because he used    very few people. So the direction of the effect             did not reach statistical significance but was similar in  magnitude and direction to what the FDA   data showed &mdash; an increased             risk of suicide among younger people. It is a statistic that  he does not mention or highlight in his paper   whatsoever,&quot;             Dr. Miller said&#8230;<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">A number of us have been up in arms about these Gibbons&#8217; articles that reanalyze old studies and reach new conclusions. My objection [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/04\/15\/an-anatomy-of-a-deceit-4-the-letter\/\" target=\"_blank\"><u><font color=\"#200020\">an anatomy of a deceit 4&hellip;<\/font><\/u><\/a><\/strong>] was simple: the meta-analysis finds better results than any of the four studies analyzed &#8211; a mathematical impossibility. But there are plenty of other complaints. Gibbons&#8217; mathematical analysis is way beyond my skill set or that of most non-PhD statisticians and because his data is unavailable, uncheckable anyway. But it appears that Dr. Miller and others from the Harvard School of Public Health are up to the task, and are challenging Gibbons on his own playing field [above].<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Just on the most superficial run through, the Gibbons meta-analysis is flawed. He used only the Eli Lilly child data to counter the FDA analysis of the whole world&#8217;s literature of Clinical Trials of Antidepressants in adolescents. And yet in his public speaking, he talks as if it stands for all antidepressants. He shows no data and presents an analysis no one can really understand or reproduce &#8211; essentially saying <em>trust me!<\/em> And yet his track record is of years of jumping onto any thread to debunk the Black Box warning &#8211; not just for antidepressants but for Neurontin as well [<strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/10\/21\/vote-for-marketing\/\"><u><font color=\"#200020\">vote for marketing&hellip;<\/font><\/u><\/a><\/strong>].<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">At this rate, we might well start a new Journal to publish all the various ways this meta-analysis has been found lacking &#8211; maybe the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Gibbons Gaffes Gazette<\/font><\/strong>&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Antidepressant Study Stirs Controversy Medscape Medical News &gt; Psychiatry by Fran Lowry Oct&nbsp;22,&nbsp;2012 A recent meta-analysis concluding that 2 antidepressants neither increased nor decreased suicidal thoughts and behavior in children is flawed, Harvard researchers say. However, the authors of the study stand by their article and its conclusion.&nbsp; The study, led by Robert Gibbons, PhD, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29410","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29410","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29410"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29410\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29419,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29410\/revisions\/29419"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29410"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29410"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29410"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}