{"id":3045,"date":"2009-04-16T22:13:28","date_gmt":"2009-04-17T03:13:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3045"},"modified":"2009-04-16T22:36:18","modified_gmt":"2009-04-17T03:36:18","slug":"dislocate-his-expectations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/04\/16\/dislocate-his-expectations\/","title":{"rendered":"dislocate his expectations&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a title=\"Permanent Link to The Torture Memos\" href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/16\/the-torture-memos\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Torture Memos<\/a><\/strong><br \/>  By: emptywheel<br \/>   April 16, 2009<\/div>\n<p>ACLU has them posted: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/72.3.233.244\/pdfs\/safefree\/olc_08012002_bybee.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">August 1, 2002 John Yoo memo<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/72.3.233.244\/pdfs\/safefree\/olc_05302005_bradbury.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">First May 10, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/72.3.233.244\/pdfs\/safefree\/olc_05102005_bradbury_20pg.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Second May 10, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/72.3.233.244\/pdfs\/safefree\/olc_05102005_bradbury46pg.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">May 30, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">Did I say they were worried about <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/14\/its-not-the-water-boarding-its-the-blows-to-the-head\/\" target=\"_blank\">blows to the head<\/a><\/strong>? From the August 1, 2002 memo: <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<ul> For walling, a flexible false wall will be constructed. The individual is placed with his heels touching the wall. The interrogator pulls the individual forward and then quickly and firmly pushes the individual into the wall. It is the individual&#8217;s shoulder blades that hit the wall. During this motion, the head and neck are supported with a rolled hood or towel that provides a c-collar effect to help prevent whiplash. To further reduce the probability of injury, the individual is allowed to rebound from the flexible wall.<\/ul>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Oh, and did I mention that they were <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/03\/15\/the-abu-zubaydah-experiment\/\" target=\"_blank\">using Abu Zubaydah as a human guinea pig<\/a><\/strong>, to test out methods they wanted to get approved? I ask, you see, because Abu Zubaydah told the ICRC that they only put in the &quot;flexible false wall&quot; after they started this technique&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">A sample:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"250\" border=\"0\" width=\"423\" vspace=\"5\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/torture.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"114\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" width=\"94\" src=\"http:\/\/tbn3.google.com\/images?q=tbn:eUI329Smp7Y8iM:http:\/\/nixonisinhell.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/02\/abu_zubaydah.jpg\" alt=\"Abu Zubaydah\" title=\"Abu Zubaydah\" \/>What follows this introduction is a long narrative justifying each of these techniques as being something other than torture. While the absurdity of the logic is the most striking feature at first glance, it&#8217;s the detachment of the authors that becomes increasingly monstrous. It really does sound like some of the lingo in the German descriptions of their extermination camps, as if they&#8217;re talking about something other than human beings &#8211; things like &quot;&#8230; the head and neck are supported with a rolled hood or towel that provides a c-collar effect to help prevent whiplash,&quot; as if <em>whiplash<\/em> is the problem. It&#8217;s hard to imagine that the White House got involved with such things [such pointless things].<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">And the idea that these techniques would &quot;<strong>&#8230; dislocate his expectations regarding the treatment he will receive<\/strong>&quot; is ludicrous. This man thinks we are &quot;the Great Satan&quot; so we&#8217;re going to change his expectations by torturing him? Not good thinking. All we did was prove him right. And, in fact, he was right. In calmer moments, I believe that 9\/11 drove our leaders crazy. In more angry moments, I think it unleashed their pre-existing sadism and insanity.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">One thing these memos make clear. These lawyers were answering specific questions that were posed or at least processed by the White House. I would love to see the memos or letters requesting these opinions. It sounds like they sent a detailed plan for approval, about a specific prisoner in this case. Very nasty business, this. During the Viet Nam War, I thought we were misguided. But with this Iraq War, I feel deeply ashamed of our country&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Torture Memos By: emptywheel April 16, 2009 ACLU has them posted: August 1, 2002 John Yoo memo First May 10, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo Second May 10, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo May 30, 2005 Steven Bradbury memo Did I say they were worried about blows to the head? From the August 1, 2002 memo: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3045","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3045","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3045"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3045\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3045"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3045"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3045"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}