{"id":3054,"date":"2009-04-22T01:02:35","date_gmt":"2009-04-22T06:02:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3054"},"modified":"2009-04-22T12:26:12","modified_gmt":"2009-04-22T17:26:12","slug":"what-a-guy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/04\/22\/what-a-guy\/","title":{"rendered":"what a guy!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/21\/the-sasc-smoking-gun-on-waterboarding\/\" target=\"_blank\">The SASC Smoking Gun on Waterboarding<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/21\/sasc-torture-report-working-thread\/\" target=\"_blank\">SASC Torture Report, Working Thread<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/21\/cheney-plans-to-continue-to-manufacture-intelligence\/\" target=\"_blank\">Cheney Plans to Continue to Manufacture Intelligence<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/21\/olc-cia-cya\/\" target=\"_blank\">OLC + CIA = CYA<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/21\/those-cia-employees-dont-look-pissed-that-obama-released-the-torture-memos\/\" target=\"_blank\">Those CIA Employees Don&rsquo;t LOOK Pissed that Obama Released the Torture Memos<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/19\/is-there-a-2003-waterboarding-memo-were-missing\/\" target=\"_blank\">Is There a 2003 Waterboarding Memo We&rsquo;re Missing?<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/emptywheel.firedoglake.com\/2009\/04\/19\/the-cia-ig-report-is-waterboarding-ksm-183-times-really-effective\/\" target=\"_blank\">The CIA IG Report: Is Waterboarding KSM 183 Times Really Effective?<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">If you feel like you&#8217;re getting behind on the Torture story, emptywheel is full of information and analysis in this series of recent posts &#8211; the top one being particularly damning. I find it hard to maintain any distance. The torture part is hard enough, because it&#8217;s clear that they didn&#8217;t know when to throw in the towel once they got on this path. Cheney seems determined to justify the program [even though he&#8217;d probably be better advised to keep his mouth shut and spend more time at home on the ranch]. But if you lay out the timeline of things, it&#8217;s clear that they kept going, kept getting more and more justification as time went on.   <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">I think all of this would be more palatable if it was only soon after 9\/11 &#8211; the heat of the moment. But it continued in spite of a lot of resistance. The word &quot;perseveration&quot; comes to mind. It&#8217;s something demented people do &#8211; get stuck on something and keep at it ad nauseum. I feel the same way about their Iraq War. It was a bad idea to start with. But they kept at it as if it had become a cause unto itself disconnected from any previous meaning.The unwarranted Domestic Surveillance fit the same scenario &#8211; persisting no matter what objections were raised.  <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Which brings me to my Senator, Saxby Chambliss. What a guy!<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/firstread.msnbc.msn.com\/archive\/2009\/04\/20\/1900519.aspx\">GOP: WH &#8216;overstepped their bounds&#8217;<\/a><\/strong><br \/> Monday, April 20, 2009<br \/> by Domenico Montanaro<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"115\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" width=\"93\" vspace=\"4\" src=\"http:\/\/tbn1.google.com\/images?q=tbn:dkXRquVOs9vweM:http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_hWAVXHNngbk\/SS3TtG8RsDI\/AAAAAAAADBM\/mLUcBPdsPhI\/s320\/Saxby%2BChambliss.jpg\" \/>Senate Republican <strong>Saxby Chambliss<\/strong>, a member of the Intelligence and Armed Services committees, today said in the effort to embarrass former President <strong>Bush<\/strong>, the <strong>Obama<\/strong> administration &quot;overstepped their bounds&quot; in releasing interrogation memos last week.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&quot;It seems that this administration looks for every opportunity they can to seek to embarrass the previous administration,&rdquo; Chambliss said at a news conference. &ldquo;And I think this is one time they really overstepped their bounds.&quot;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Citing the fact that there hasn&#8217;t been a terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9\/11, Chambliss added, &quot;Whatever the previous administration did, under the guise of the legal opinions that the Justice Department issued, it&#8217;s worked. And the American people have a great appreciation for that.&quot;<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">He added, &quot;There are some things that when you operate in the cloak-and-dagger world of the intelligence community that need to remain in the intelligence community&quot;&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Somehow, talking about Obama overstepping bounds in the face of the boundlessness of the Bush\/Cheney experience seems too absurd to even contemplate&#8230; <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The SASC Smoking Gun on Waterboarding SASC Torture Report, Working Thread Cheney Plans to Continue to Manufacture Intelligence OLC + CIA = CYA Those CIA Employees Don&rsquo;t LOOK Pissed that Obama Released the Torture Memos Is There a 2003 Waterboarding Memo We&rsquo;re Missing? The CIA IG Report: Is Waterboarding KSM 183 Times Really Effective? 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