{"id":30804,"date":"2012-12-07T10:00:48","date_gmt":"2012-12-07T15:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=30804"},"modified":"2012-12-07T14:30:27","modified_gmt":"2012-12-07T19:30:27","slug":"too-many-inconsistencies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/12\/07\/too-many-inconsistencies\/","title":{"rendered":"too many inconsistencies&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/david-j-kupfer-md\/dsm-5_b_2083092.html\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Field Trial Results Guide DSM Recommendations<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>             <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Huffington Post<\/font><\/strong><br \/>             by David J. Kupfer, M.D.<br \/>             Written with Helena C. Kraemer, Ph.D.<br \/>             11\/7\/2012<\/div>\n<p>      <\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"57\" height=\"62\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/pinochio-4.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/pinochio-3.gif\" \/>&#8230;  some DSM-5 detractors have spotlighted the six as indicative  of flaws  in the field trials, especially because this group included  major  depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder, two of the  most  commonly diagnosed conditions. The opposite is closer to the truth.   Rather than discrediting the field trials, the outcome here reveals the   critical value of how the trials were constructed and conducted and how   we are moving forward. Ironically, both major depressive disorder and  generalized anxiety  disorder were tested not because they were being  modified for the next  manual, but because they were remaining  relatively unchanged and could  serve as reference disorders from the  DSM-IV trials. But as part of that  process two decades ago, patients  were carefully screened, and  participating clinicians received special  training and explicit  direction on how to perform evaluations. In  contrast, the DSM-5 field  trials accepted patients as they came and  asked clinicians to work as  they usually did &ndash; to mirror the  circumstances in which most diagnosing  takes place.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<p>      <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>We believe the DSM-5 results represent  the truer picture of the  difficulty clinicians may have in reliably  diagnosing both conditions,  either because they often occur with other  conditions or because they  are accompanied by symptoms that can  fluctuate greatly. Regardless of  why, we acknowledge that the  relatively low reliability of major  depressive disorder and generalized  anxiety disorder is a concern for  clinical decision-making. Strategies  need to be developed to address the  problem as the manual evolves into  a living document that incorporates  revisions and additions as  research and clinical practices advance. The  good news is that we&rsquo;re  now inherently better prepared for this  challenge; the DSM-5 field  trials have laid the groundwork for how such  strategies and future  changes should be judged&hellip;<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Like most practicing physicians, I had the habit of scanning the literature and paying attention to the topic, then the conclusion, then a quick read through of the graphs, tables, and conclusions. I didn&#8217;t spend a lot of time picking through the Methods, etc. Who has time for that? After I&#8217;d been retired for a while, I started looking at the literature differently because I didn&#8217;t believe a lot of what I was reading. Thus the boring aspects of this blog &#8211; piddling around in the Methods and Analysis parts. As we all know by now, the industry sponsored Clinical Trial articles counted on&nbsp;practicing physicians being scanners, because the jury-rigging is in the Methods and Analysis. By the time you get to the Results and Conclusions, you&#8217;ve already drunk the Kool Aid.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">One of the joys of being retired is that I can do what I want to do, no matter how long it takes. So now I read articles in a different way. After the Abstract, I read the Acknowledgements, the Conflict of interest declarations, and the Authors&#8217; affiliations. Then I read the Methods. Finally I read the article through. Sometimes I forget and have to go through it again in the right way. I would&#8217;ve thought that I was a person who would be good at vetting articles. I&#8217;m a math major with an almost Masters in Statistics; was an NIH Research Fellow in Internal Medicine; and have been a computer programmer and closet geek since the first chip hit the market. But that&#8217;s not the case. I&#8217;ve had to have a lot of help with the methodology from some very patient people [Thanks!] and still get crossed eyes when people use &quot;statistical packages&quot; to generate their stats. They didn&#8217;t teach Clinical Trial design in my day and I still struggle with a lot of it.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"120\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"120\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/bullshit.gif\" \/>There&#8217;s one thing I have gained poring over these bizarre Clinical Trials that have become the conduit for so much corrupted science. I&#8217;m beginning to have a usable <strong><font color=\"#200020\">bull-shit meter<\/font><\/strong>. I&#8217;ve been helped along with that because there&#8217;s so much of it, so that my <strong><font color=\"#200020\">gullability rating<\/font><\/strong> is also falling. I am no longer wowed by Harvard, Stanford, or Brown [I think Biederman, Schlatzberg, or Keller]. The spin-meisters have found all the trusted markers [institution, publication record, journal reputation, authors&#8217; degrees, etc] and exploited them to the hilt. So when I read Kupfer&#8217;s and Kraemer&#8217;s article about the DSM-5 Field Trials, my meter sounded its alarm and I went looking for Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket graphics &#8211; a standard symbol for the evils of prevarication. Even though I&#8217;ve never had a love affair with any DSM, or for that matter the MDD diagnosis, I&#8217;ve come to believe that Reliability [Kappa] means something. As inadequate as it is, it&#8217;s our <strong><font color=\"#200020\">inadequate<\/font><\/strong>, and that rationalization up top just won&#8217;t do. If you&#8217;re going to discount it if it&#8217;s not what you expected or wanted &#8211; why even measure it?  <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">So now that the DSM-5 is a done deal, I have been looking over the Methods of the DSM-5 Field Trials. They&#8217;re in that article no one, including me, spent much time on. I admit that I didn&#8217;t even read the abstract. It&#8217;s this one:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/data\/Journals\/AJP\/0\/appi.ajp.2012.12070998.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">DSM-5  Field Trials in the United States and Canada, Part I: Study Design,  Sampling Strategy, Implementation, and Analytic Approaches<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>          <sup>by   Diana E. Clarke, William E. Narrow, Darrel A. Regier, S. Janet  Kuramoto, David J. Kupfer, Emily A. Kuhl, Lisa Greiner, and Helena C.  Kraemer<\/sup><br \/>            <strong><font color=\"#004400\">American Journal of Psychiatry.<\/font><\/strong> 2012 October 30, <strong><font color=\"#200020\">AJP in Advance<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<p>    <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><u><font color=\"#200020\">Objective<\/font><\/u>: This article discusses the design, sampling strategy, implementation, and data analytic processes of the DSM-5 Field Trials.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><u><font color=\"#200020\">Method<\/font><\/u>: The DSM-5 Field Trials were conducted by using a test-retest reliability design with a stratified sampling approach across six adult and four pediatric sites in the United States and one adult site in Canada. A stratified random sampling approach was used to enhance precision in the estimation of the reliability coefficients. A web-based research electronic data capture system was used for simultaneous data collection from patients and clinicians across sites and for centralized data management. Weighted descriptive analyses, intraclass kappa and intraclass correlation coefficients for stratified samples, and receiver operating curves were computed. The DSM-5 Field Trials capitalized on advances since DSM-III and DSM-IV in statistical measures of reliability [i.e., intraclass kappa for stratified samples] and other recently developed measures to determine confidence intervals around kappa estimates.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><u><font color=\"#200020\">Results<\/font><\/u>: Diagnostic interviews using DSM- 5 criteria were conducted by 279 clinicians of varied disciplines who received training comparable to what would be available to any clinician after publication of DSM-5. Overall, 2,246 patients with various diagnoses and levels of comorbidity were enrolled, of which over 86% were seen for two diagnostic interviews. A range of reliability coefficients were observed for the categorical diagnoses and dimensional measures.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><u><font color=\"#200020\">Conclusions<\/font><\/u>: Multisite field trials and training comparable to what would be available to any clinician after publication of DSM-5 provided &ldquo;real-world&rdquo; testing of DSM-5 proposed diagnoses.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I printed out the article when it came out, and have lately looked it over several times. It&#8217;s a doozie and I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m up to the task even with time and help. But there&#8217;s something wrong in there: the bizarre discordance between sites? the unreliability of the two most common and unchanged diagnostic entities? all the delays? the fact that the Method section of the abstract clarifies nothing? There are too many inconsistencies. Like those industry sponsored Clinical Trials, just talking about the Results and Conclusions isn&#8217;t enough. Something is wrong before we get there&#8230;<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"484\" height=\"291\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/dsm-5-field-trials.gif\" \/>&nbsp;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Field Trial Results Guide DSM Recommendations Huffington Post by David J. Kupfer, M.D. Written with Helena C. Kraemer, Ph.D. 11\/7\/2012 &#8230; some DSM-5 detractors have spotlighted the six as indicative of flaws in the field trials, especially because this group included major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder, two of the most commonly diagnosed conditions. 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