{"id":31740,"date":"2013-01-06T12:08:48","date_gmt":"2013-01-06T17:08:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=31740"},"modified":"2013-01-06T12:14:58","modified_gmt":"2013-01-06T17:14:58","slug":"a-start-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/01\/06\/a-start-3\/","title":{"rendered":"a start&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><sup><strong>You got to know when to hold them,<\/strong><\/sup><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><sup><strong>And know when to fold them.<\/strong><\/sup><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><sup><strong>Know when to run away.<\/strong><\/sup><\/em><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><sup><strong>Know when to hide&#8230;<\/strong><\/sup><\/em><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.medscape.com\/viewarticle\/776057\" target=\"_blank\">Don&#8217;t Turn Your Back on Industry, but Keep It Honest<\/a><br \/>           <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Medscape Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong><br \/>           by Jeffrey A. Lieberman, MD<br \/>           Dec&nbsp;19,&nbsp;2012<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>My comments are prompted by an article that was published on November 24 in the              <em>Washington Post<\/em>, which was highly critical of GlaxoSmithKline and the pharmaceutical industry because of studies that were done with the             hyperglycemic agent Avandia (rosiglitazone), which was subsequently recalled. The last thing I want to be known as is an apologist for the  pharmaceutical industry in terms of defending any unscrupulous             or mercenary behavior. However, I think we need to be aware  of the fact that the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industry             is the private sector, which is involved in the drug  development enterprise. It is an essential industry in our society and             vital to the medical field in terms of being able to further  progress in developing treatments for medical illnesses and disease.             In other words, we cannot tolerate what would be  unprofessional and inappropriate, dishonest, or harmful behavior, but at             the same time, we have to resist the temptation to throw the  baby out with the bathwater.<\/strong><\/sup><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>The article that was published in the              <em>Washington Post<\/em> was entitled &quot;As Drug Industry&#8217;s Influence Over Research Grows, So Does the Potential for Bias.&quot; The article was referring             to a study that was published in the              <em>New England Journal of Medicine<\/em> on December 7, 2006. The lead author was Dr. Kahn for the ADOPT Study  Group, and the study was on the glycemic durability of rosiglitazone,  metformin,             or glyburide monotherapy. This study was a comparison of  oral hyperglycemic agents, and it found that rosiglitazone was superior             for glycemic control compared with the other agents. Subsequently, after the drug was released and marketed successfully, concerns about cardiac toxicity emerged. The drug was             ultimately recalled, and there have been some medicolegal actions that have occurred in the aftermath.<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Are we believing this? Why is the next president of the American Psychiatric Association doing a Medscape presentation about an oral hypoglycemic drug pulled from the market because it causes heart attacks? using that as a springboard to extoll the virtues of academic physicians being entangled with industry? in a case that also involved the antidepressant PAXIL [which he doesn&#8217;t mention!] and the gross misbehavior of his fellow academic psychiatry chairmen [Nemeroff, Schatzberg, Keller]?           <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>The              <em>Washington Post<\/em> article reviewed the history of this,  calling into question relationships between the investigators from the  academic community             and the pharmaceutical company, who did not report or failed  to detect the signs of safety risks. Therefore, the article pointed             the finger at the investigators as having an unhealthy  relationship with the pharmaceutical industry. This is extremely worrisome, but the fact of the matter is  that this does not mean that the academic medical community and             physician investigators should not or cannot be actively  involved collaboratively in the drug discovery and development process.             Indeed, this type of interaction and collaboration is not  just helpful but is essential if we are going to sustain medical             progress in developing treatments for human disease. We need to understand that although there have been  wrongdoings in some instances by both industry and academic physicians             collaborating with industry, we should not throw the baby  out with the bathwater. The pharmaceutical and biotech industries             are not the tobacco industry. If the tobacco industry went  away tomorrow, no one in our society would be necessarily the worse             off for it. If the pharmaceutical industry disappeared, we  would be in big, big trouble&#8230;<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I wonder who they think might read this and be convinced of anything other that the fact that somebody thinks that the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Medscape<\/font><\/strong> audience is lacking good sense. But there&#8217;s more: <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.medscape.com\/viewarticle\/777132\" target=\"_blank\">APA Answers Criticism of Pharma-Influenced Bias in DSM-5          <\/a><br \/>        <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Medscape Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> <br \/>        by Deborah Brauser<br \/>        Jan&nbsp;04,&nbsp;2013<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>The American Psychiatric Association [APA] has fired back a strong response to a              <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/business\/economy\/antidepressants-to-treat-grief-psychiatry-panelists-with-ties-to-drug-industry-say-yes\/20%2012\/12\/26\/ca09cde6-3d60-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html\">recent article<\/a> by the              <em>Washington Post<\/em> questioning   the possibility of pharmaceutical industry influence on decisions regarding the upcoming fifth edition of the                          <em>Diagnostic and Statistical Manual   of Mental Disorders<\/em> (DSM-5). The              <em>Post<\/em> article specifically examined relationships with  industry sources, including receiving partial income, for members of  the             DSM-5 Mood Disorders Work Group and the APA&#8217;s Clinical  Practice Guidelines Work Group on major depressive disorders. They             also   discussed the manual&#8217;s dropping of the bereavement  exclusion, calling that decision a potential &quot;bonanza for the drug             companies&quot; and &quot;opening   the way for more&#8230;to be diagnosed  with major depression &mdash; and thus, treated with antidepressants.&quot;<\/strong><\/sup><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>&quot;While speculation is bound to occur, we think it is  important to stay focused on the fact that APA has gone to great lengths             to ensure that   DSM-5 and APA&#8217;s clinical practice  guidelines are free from bias,&quot; said David Kupfer, MD, chair of the  DSM-5             Task Force, in a release. &quot;Throughout the development of each product, APA established, upheld, and enforced its disclosure policies and relationship             limits,&quot; said Dr.   Kupfer. He noted that no DSM-5 task force or work group member is  allowed to have more than $10,000 of his or her annual income to             be derived from   industry sources, nor are members allowed  to hold stock or shares valued at more than $50,000 in a pharmaceutical             or device company.<\/strong><\/sup><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>With the              <em>Post<\/em> article questioning whether these amounts are still too high,              <em>Medscape Medical News <\/em>asked Dr. Kupfer if the   limits should be lowered even more. &quot;When we established the limits on income from industry  sources, we looked to make them more stringent than requirements for             staff at the   National Institutes of Health, members of  advisory committees for the Food and Drug Administration, and most             academic departments,&quot; he   answered. Dr. Kupfer added that each member agreed to follow these  limits at the start of their work on DSM-5 &mdash; and to continue following             them   as long as they are involved in the development of  the manual. &quot;APA has looked to strengthen these policies even further             for new clinical practice   guidelines in development&quot;&#8230;<\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img decoding=\"async\" vspace=\"5\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"123\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sabshin-4.jpg\" \/>So who needs clinical practice guidelines, given our track record with such things [ie <strong><font color=\"#200020\">TMAP<\/font><\/strong>]? And who believes that being on a drug company&#8217;s payroll has no effect on one&#8217;s opinions? I&#8217;ve been thinking more about my hypothesis that the background wheeling and dealing in the American Psychiatric Association with the creation of the DSM-III set up an environment that enabled the corruption that followed [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/01\/02\/which-nail\/\">which nail?&hellip;<\/a>]. I still think that, but I now believe that I missed and even more obvious consequence of the goings-on back then.&nbsp;In Dr. Mel Sabshin&#8217;s account from those days [<a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=fgCUrffGCfcC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=gbs_ge_summary_r&#038;cad=0#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Changing American Psychiatry: A Personal Perspective<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a>], he made it very clear that he and unnamed others felt that psychiatry needed to make a big change, and that the American Psychiatric Association needed to spearhead that change. Again, whether that was a right or wrong decision isn&#8217;t the point of the moment. The point is that under his leadership, the APA became the power base that set and controlled the direction of the specialty. Here&#8217;s Dr. Sabshin&#8217;s way of saying that again: <\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" vspace=\"5\" height=\"295\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sabshin-6.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"> &quot;<strong><font color=\"#663333\">How could a professional organization engineer a scientific revolution that changed its core?<\/font><\/strong>&quot; the operative word here being &quot;<strong><font color=\"#663333\">engineer<\/font><\/strong>&quot;. And the APA has remained in that role ever since &#8211; <strong><font color=\"#200020\">engineer<\/font><\/strong>. So today, we have the upcoming president of the APA fighting for the right of academic psychiatrists to be heavily involved in the pharmaceutical industry, and the leader of the DSM-5 Task Force telling us that the current financial relationships with industry have no effect on the decisions of the Task Force. And I&#8217;ll bet that you expect this aging boring blogger to be leading up to calling &quot;bullshit&quot; on both of these commentaries. If that&#8217;s what you expect, you&#8217;re pretty close to right on target. As I tried to think of some way to say what I wish they&#8217;d said, something occurred to me. It&#8217;s a little rough, but it&#8217;s a start:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" vspace=\"5\" height=\"295\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sabshin-12.gif\" \/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You got to know when to hold them, And know when to fold them. 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