{"id":3212,"date":"2009-06-10T19:12:46","date_gmt":"2009-06-10T23:12:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3212"},"modified":"2009-06-10T22:14:06","modified_gmt":"2009-06-11T02:14:06","slug":"is-that-a-clock-i-hear-ticking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/06\/10\/is-that-a-clock-i-hear-ticking\/","title":{"rendered":"is that a clock I hear ticking?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n\n
SENATOR SHELDON WHITEHOUSE [D-RI]<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Sheldon Whitehouse: “No Further Actionable Intelligence Was Obtained”<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n
from Abu Zubaydah by Waterboarding<\/a><\/strong>
\nBy: emptywheel
\nJune 10, 2009<\/div>\n

Sheldon Whitehouse gave a barnburner of a speech<\/a><\/strong> last night, in which he described how egregious Dick Cheney’s lies about torture have been. The speech goes further than President Obama’s and Russ Feingold’s and Carl Levin’s calls on Cheney’s lies in two ways. First, those other calls focused on whether the documents Cheney wants declassified actually say what he claims they say; Whitehouse focused on whether Cheney’s more basic claims about torture are true. And second, Whitehouse here focuses not on whether we needed waterboarding to get intelligence [Obama, for example, said, "the public reports and the public justifications for these techniques – which is that we got information from these individuals that were subjected to these techniques – doesn’t answer the core question, which is:  Could we have gotten that same information without resorting to these techniques?], but whether we actually got any useful intelligence from the methods at all. <\/p>\n

Whitehouse says that no further actionable intelligence<\/strong> was gained through the torture used on Abu Zubaydah after he was turned over to the CIA contractors for good…<\/div>\n
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    I want my colleagues and the American public to know that, measured against the information I’ve been able to gain access to, the story-line that we have been led to believe, the story-line about waterboarding that we have been sold, is false in every one of its dimensions<\/strong>, and I ask that my colleagues be patient and be prepared to listen to the evidence when all is said and done before they wrap themselves in that storyline.<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n
    Whitehouse is involved in the Senate Select Intelligence Committee investigation, so he has seen all the available documents, including the "classified" documents. And speaking of the political use of secrecy, check out Bill Leonard’s comments [recently retired Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, the division of the National Archives and Records Administration that deals with classified documents]. He’s very clear that the Bush Administration abused classification for political reasons:<\/div>\n

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