{"id":3270,"date":"2009-06-28T00:07:50","date_gmt":"2009-06-28T04:07:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3270"},"modified":"2009-06-28T18:25:02","modified_gmt":"2009-06-28T22:25:02","slug":"ibn-al-shaykh-al-libi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/06\/28\/ibn-al-shaykh-al-libi\/","title":{"rendered":"Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">The first high value <em>detainee<\/em> of the <em>War on Terror<\/em>, <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi<\/strong><\/font>, was captured by the Pakistanis when he tried to cross the border. He was a paramilitary trainer in the <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Al Khaldan<\/strong><\/font> training camp in Afghanistan  and personally knew <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Osama bin Laden<\/strong><\/font>. After being captured, he was initially successfully interrogated by the F.B.I., but then whisked away by the C.I.A. to Egypt. He was apparently the only real source for the Administration&#8217;s repeated claims that al Qaeda had ties to Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Iraq &#8211; information garnered under torture in Egypt; information the C.I.A. doubted was true; information al-Libi later recanted. When the Administration announced they were returning all the detainees from their overseas &quot;black sites,&quot; al-Libi wasn&#8217;t in the group. Recently, he was found in a Lybian prison, where he&#8217;d been taken instead. Several weeks later, he was reported dead from suicide.    <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Why wasn&#8217;t al-Libi returned with the other overseas prisoners? Why was he instead in a prison in Lybia? Who made those decisions? Did he really commit suicide, or was he disposed of like the C.I.A. torture tapes? Will we ever know the answers to these questions?    <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">As indelible as those pictures of the 9\/11 attack on the Twin Towers and the day of horror in New York; and as thoroughly etched on our collective psyche as the image of Osama bin Laden; the likes of <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi<\/strong><\/font> and <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Abu Zubaydah<\/strong><\/font> will persist in the history books with equal footing. The legacy of Viet Nam is the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-485983\/Found-The-monster-My-Lai-massacre.html\"><strong>My Lai Massacre<\/strong><\/a> in 1968, and we will remember Bush&#8217;s War on Terror by the pictures from <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Abu Ghraib<\/strong><\/font>, from our <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>Extrordinary Renditions<\/strong><\/font>, and from <font color=\"#300030\"><strong>John Yoo&#8217;s Torture Memos<\/strong><\/font>.<\/p>\n<table cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#300030\"><strong>I still have trouble imagining how &quot;outsourcing&quot; torture to other countries could be viewed as a legal way to get around our own laws and international commitments. There is a legal concept called &quot;criminal intent&quot; [<em>mens rea<\/em>]. If I hire an assassin to kill my boss, even though I don&#8217;t do the killing [<em>actus rea<\/em>], I have the criminal intent [<em>mens rea<\/em>], so off to jail I go&#8230;<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first high value detainee of the War on Terror, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, was captured by the Pakistanis when he tried to cross the border. He was a paramilitary trainer in the Al Khaldan training camp in Afghanistan and personally knew Osama bin Laden. 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