{"id":3336,"date":"2009-07-14T09:02:54","date_gmt":"2009-07-14T13:02:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3336"},"modified":"2009-07-14T11:55:07","modified_gmt":"2009-07-14T15:55:07","slug":"autopsy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/07\/14\/autopsy\/","title":{"rendered":"autopsy&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\">  <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/07\/14\/books\/14kaku.html\">The Choices That Closed a Window Into Afghanistan  <\/a><br \/>     New York Times<\/strong><br \/>     MICHIKO KAKUTANI<br \/>     July 13, 2009 <br \/>     Book Review of:<br \/>      <strong>IN THE GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES: America&rsquo;s War in Afghanistan <\/strong><br \/>      By Seth G. Jones <\/div>\n<p>    <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">It&rsquo;s hard for the reader to finish this volume without being struck by the remarkable parallels between the American failure to prevent a re-emergence of the Taliban in Afghanistan and its failure to prevent the emergence of an insurgency in Iraq. In both cases the determination of Donald H. Rumsfeld&rsquo;s Pentagon to use a smaller deployment than others recommended [what Mr. Jones calls a &ldquo;light footprint&rdquo;] and to attempt to do reconstruction on the cheap resulted in a lack of sufficient troops and resources to maintain law and order and to provide the local population with basic services like electricity. In both cases these failures led to residents&rsquo; growing dissatisfaction with the United States-backed government and a tilt toward the insurgents, who rushed to fill the power vacuum. <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">While I&#8217;ve consistently come down on the side of ignoring President Obama&#8217;s idea that we should move ahead &#8211; that we need to focus on our current dilemma and put aside feelings about the past Administration, privately I&#8217;ve questioned that opinion. When you know that you feel something strongly [in this case &#8211; anger], it&#8217;s hard to deny it as a prime motivator. This paragraph in a book review resonates with the other side of my feelings about these last eight years. A small number of men who did not know what they were doing were able to control our course of action in responding to a serious National Threat &#8211; George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld [and friends]. They didn&#8217;t listen to our experts. They did what they thought was right and were able to grab the power to make cataclysmic mistakes. From another book review:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/mountainrunner.us\/2006\/04\/cobra_ii_pbs_interview_with_go.html\"><strong>Cobra II: PBS Interview with Gordon and Trainor<\/strong><\/a><br \/>  By Matt Armstrong<br \/>  April 14, 2006<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0375422625?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=mountainrunne-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0375422625\"><img decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" vspace=\"4\" src=\"http:\/\/mountainrunner.us\/images\/cobraii.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>MARGARET  WARNER:<\/strong> Now, the debate about troop levels is an old one. But you all also have  some new information on that score, which was that it wasn&#8217;t just Army chief of  staff, <strong>General Shinseki<\/strong> who had said we&#8217;re going to need a more robust force,  but that there were a lot of military commanders who in the planning phase were  saying you&#8217;re going to need more.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> <strong>MICHAEL GORDON:<\/strong> The central point that <strong>General Shinseki<\/strong> made in congressional testimony in response to a question was that the force you need to control the country after the regime falls is larger than the force you need to destroy the regime. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> And what we&#8217;ve discovered in this book is this was by no means his unique assessment, number one. There was an Army General, <strong>Steve Hawkins<\/strong>&nbsp; who worked on planning issues for the land war command, who  the day before General Shinseki testified told him that his internal  estimate was that you could need in excess of <strong>300,000<\/strong> forces to control the country.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>MICHAEL GORDON:<\/strong> Also, there was a Marine officer on the staff of the National  Security Council who put together a study of the number of forces that have typically  been required for postwar situations. And he looked at Bosnia, and he looked at  a whole host of them. And he said based on past experience, he took the Balkans,  for example, as your model. How many would we need in Iraq? And what he discovered  is you need <strong>300,000<\/strong> to <strong>400,000<\/strong>&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">The decision to invade Iraq was ill considered, beside being based on deceit. The deployment in Iraq was mismanaged and detracted from our &quot;real war&quot; in Afghanistan. The conduct of both wars was inept. The issue is why were they able to garner so much power to do things so badly. The only battle they won was their fight for control of our government in order to lead us down their road to failure. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#300030\"><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"113\" border=\"1\" align=\"left\" width=\"170\" src=\"http:\/\/www.fotosearch.com\/bthumb\/CSP\/CSP124\/k1242182.jpg\" \/>The reason to exhume their methodology is clear. It&#8217;s the same reasons doctors push for autopsies in difficult cases &#8211; to find out what they missed and what went wrong, in order to learn from bad experience so as not to make the same mistakes. Most physicians involved in critical care have made fatal mistakes &#8211; myself included [and the ones that sting the most are the ones where I didn&#8217;t get outside help when I needed it]. We physicians have a rule, &quot;Do no harm.&quot; It&#8217;s an impossible rule, but it&#8217;s a worthy goal. When we fail, it&#8217;s incumbant on us to look at why &#8211; in detail. When a country makes a mistake this large, we need the autopsy to look at our failure squarely in the eye. It&#8217;s not just about the Bush Administration. It&#8217;s about the American people and the American system that allowed this to happen&#8230;<\/strong><\/font> <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Choices That Closed a Window Into Afghanistan New York Times MICHIKO KAKUTANI July 13, 2009 Book Review of: IN THE GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES: America&rsquo;s War in Afghanistan By Seth G. Jones It&rsquo;s hard for the reader to finish this volume without being struck by the remarkable parallels between the American failure to prevent a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3336","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3336","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3336"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3336\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3336"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3336"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3336"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}