{"id":3507,"date":"2009-09-21T00:35:47","date_gmt":"2009-09-21T04:35:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3507"},"modified":"2009-09-21T00:35:47","modified_gmt":"2009-09-21T04:35:47","slug":"their-motives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2009\/09\/21\/their-motives\/","title":{"rendered":"their motives?"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2009\/09\/20\/boehner-socialist\/\" title=\"Site: Think Progress\">Backed Into A Corner, Boehner Admits That Obama Is Not A Socialist<\/a><br \/>         ThinkProgress<\/strong><br \/>          By Amanda Terkel<br \/>         September 20, 2009<\/div>\n<p>       <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">RNC Chairman Michael Steele recently sent out a fundraising letter saying that President Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress are attempting a &ldquo;<strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2009\/09\/10\/steeles-take-on-obama-spe_n_282643.html\">socialist power grab<\/a><\/strong>.&rdquo; Today on NBC&rsquo;s Meet the Press, host David Gregory pressed House Minority Leader John Boehner [R-OH] on whether such language was appropriate. Boehner tried to dodge the question, insisting that &ldquo;you can call it whatever you want,&rdquo; but the fact is that Obama&rsquo;s the one scaring the American public. Gregory continued to ask whether Boehner believes Obama is a socialist, to which he finally admitted he doesn&rsquo;t:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>GREGORY<\/strong>: Do you really think the President is a socialist?<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>BOEHNER<\/strong>: Listen, when you begin to look at how much they want to grow government, you can call it whatever you want, but the fact is &mdash; <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>GREGORY:<\/strong> What do you call it though? <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>BOEHNER:<\/strong> This is unsustainable. We&rsquo;re broke.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>GREGORY:<\/strong> That&rsquo;s fine. Do you think the President is a socialist? <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>BOEHNER:<\/strong>  No! <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>GREGORY:<\/strong> Okay. Because the head of the Republican Party is calling it that.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>BOEHNER:<\/strong>  Listen, I didn&rsquo;t call it that, and I&rsquo;m not going to call it that.<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">Boehner is lying. He has said that what Obama and Democratic leaders are doing is socialism. From his <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=cWp7xb9fi3E\">speech<\/a><\/strong> at the Conservative Political Action Conference a few months ago:<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<ul>Well, the stimulus, the omnibus, the budget &mdash; it&rsquo;s all one big down payment on a new American socialist experiment&hellip; All of these bills seek to replace our economic freedom with the whims and mandates of politicians and bureaucrats.<\/ul>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Basically, Boehner admitted today that all he was doing there was fear-mongering and attempting to scare the public for political gain. Today on CNN&rsquo;s State of the Union, Obama responded to these charges from conservative leaders, stating, &ldquo;You know, I&rsquo;m amused. I can&rsquo;t tell you how many foreign leaders who are heads of center-right governments say to me, I don&rsquo;t understand why people would call you socialist, in my country, you&rsquo;d be considered a conservative.&rdquo;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<table width=\"95%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"2\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"justify\" colspan=\"2\"><strong>so&sdot;cial&sdot;ism<\/strong> [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">1.<\/td>\n<td align=\"justify\">a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">2.<\/td>\n<td align=\"justify\">procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">3.<\/td>\n<td align=\"justify\">[in Marxist theory] the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p align=\"justify\">The worst part of the Health Care debate is that it&#8217;s not a Health Care debate. What matters isn&#8217;t David Gregory backing Boehner into a corner where he has to admit that calling Obama a Socialist is a scare tactic. The important parts are Boehner&#8217;s comments &#8211; like &quot;<strong><font color=\"#300030\">when you begin to look at how much they want to grow government<\/font><\/strong>.&quot; This is the Republican charge &#8211; that this Democratic Administration is specifically motivated by a desire to <strong><font color=\"#300030\">grow government<\/font><\/strong>. In another comment, he says, &quot;<strong><font color=\"#300030\">This is unsustainable. We&rsquo;re broke.<\/font><\/strong>&quot; In saying that, he ignores why we are broke [Bu$hCo], that a large number of Americans have no access to health care, and that health care costs are so out of control that the only way to stop the bleeding is for the government to assume a regulatory role.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">In fact, the Republicans rarely address the very obvious health care problem in the country. All they talk about is Socialism and their fantasies about the Democrat&#8217;s motives. There&#8217;s a lot to say and debate about how to restructure our health care system, but they aren&#8217;t even talking about it. In simplifying things down to a &ldquo;<strong>socialist power grab<\/strong>,&rdquo; they shirk their responsibility as legislators and as Americans. It&#8217;s <u>their<\/u> motives that are in question&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Backed Into A Corner, Boehner Admits That Obama Is Not A Socialist ThinkProgress By Amanda Terkel September 20, 2009 RNC Chairman Michael Steele recently sent out a fundraising letter saying that President Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress are attempting a &ldquo;socialist power grab.&rdquo; Today on NBC&rsquo;s Meet the Press, host David Gregory pressed House [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3507","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3507","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3507"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3507\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3507"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3507"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3507"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}