{"id":35669,"date":"2013-04-24T13:36:06","date_gmt":"2013-04-24T17:36:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=35669"},"modified":"2013-04-24T13:38:24","modified_gmt":"2013-04-24T17:38:24","slug":"which-drug-is-best-for-mr-jones","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/04\/24\/which-drug-is-best-for-mr-jones\/","title":{"rendered":"<em>which drug is best for Mr. Jones?<\/em>&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>If you steal something from yourself, is it plagiarism? I said all of this before [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/04\/04\/my-old-greek\/\">my old Greek&hellip;<\/a>], but I guess I want to say it again:<\/em>          <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><sup><strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" width=\"160\" vspace=\"2\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"245\" title=\"Pyrrho of Elis [360-270 BC]\" alt=\"Pyrrho of Elis [360-270 BC]\" src=\"http:\/\/0.tqn.com\/d\/ancienthistory\/1\/G\/e\/9\/3\/Pyrrho.jpg\" \/>Sometimes an idea comes along that sticks in the mind  like it belongs there &ndash; like there was already a space patiently  awaiting its arrival. After that, it might fade or seem to disappear  into a cloud of other ideas and thoughts, but then it reappears with the  unexpected familiarity of an old friend who just happens to be in the  neighborhood and gives you a call. Later visits never reproduce the  wonder of the first encounter, but they bring a calm that approximates  the meaning of the word wisdom.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">For me, such ideas are usually personified &ndash;  Einstein, Joshu, Eliot, Freud, Mandelbrot. They seem oddly connected in  that they poked holes in how I&rsquo;d been thinking, and offered me another  perspective that I didn&rsquo;t quite know was there. A few years back, I added  another luminary to the cloud. I had been asked to give a short  graduation address by the graduates of our Psychoanalytic Institute  [short, because the speaker at the previous graduation had exceeded our  endurance by leagues]. It was an honor, but I was skeptical that I could come up with a short topic that would rise to the occasion.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I knew what I wanted to say. I wanted to attack the dogmatic  way many analysts have approached this whole business of theories of  mental life and psychotherapy in general. On the other hand, I wanted to  say something about what our graduates had learned along the way. Then I  remembered something an old iconoclastic mentor, a Pathologist, had  said when I was a Fellow in Immunology in a previous life. He was  talking about the difficulty of giving talks to peers. The gist of what  he said went like this: <em>&quot;Talking to peers is a pain. Either they taught  you what you know, or you&rsquo;ve already taught them what you&rsquo;ve learned &ndash;  so you have to come up with some new angle. But since there&rsquo;s nothing  new under the sun, I always look for something old that we&rsquo;ve all  forgotten. And it really helps to find an old Greek.&quot;<\/em> I hadn&rsquo;t thought about what he said for years.         <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But armed with the triad of words and phrases [<em>skeptical<\/em>, <em>dogmatic<\/em>, and <em>old Greek<\/em>], I did the modern thing and hit the Internet. Within a short period of time, the talk wrote itself as <strong><font color=\"#300030\">Pyrrho of Elis<\/font><\/strong> clicked into the space in my mind that had long been waiting for him. In fact, I got there immediately &ndash; I googled <em>skepticism<\/em>, looked at the Wikipedia entry, and there was <strong><font color=\"#300030\">Pyrrho<\/font><\/strong>. Here&rsquo;s the short version.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Pyrrho was from Elis, a suburb of Athens. He started  life as a painter, but gravitated to Philosophy. He became one of the  Philosophers that traveled with Alexander the Great on his campaigns of  conquest and he was influenced by the Philosophers in the East that he  met on those travels. When he returned to Greece, the dominant school of  Philosophy was Dogmatism. We know a jaded version of Dogmatism, largely  from the excesses of the Catholic Church centuries later. At the time  of Pyrrho, Dogmatism was something&nbsp; lofty, like the &quot;search for absolute  truth.&quot; Pyrrho taught that there was no absolute truth, and his  teachings became known as Skepticism. What we know of Pyrrho outside  later writings about his philosophy are stories that we know aren&rsquo;t  true. They&rsquo;re the jokes the Dogmatists made about him &ndash; parodies of his  indecisiveness. They told the story that Pyrrho was walking down the  road and saw a man fall face down in the mud. While Pyrrho pondered, the  man died from asphyxiation. Or a story that his students followed him  everywhere to make sure that he decided to eat [those old Greeks weren&#8217;t  so great with jokes].         <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Since there were no absolute truths, Pyrrho taught  that we had to accept relative truth, always maintaining a questioning  attitude, vigilant for things that might cause us to revise our former  approximations. We call it healthy skepticism these days, and it&rsquo;s the  essence of the scientific method. Pyrrho was perfect for my talk.  Psychoanalysis at its best is a benevolent skepticism about the  anachronistic meanings that our patients live by as if they were true,  even when they cause havoc in living. And Freud was a grand skeptic,  skeptical of his own ideas as well as others, constantly revising his  theories even as he defended them. Pyrrho&rsquo;s story offered a way to talk  about paradigm ascension and exhaustion &ndash; and about the perils of dogma  in general. Pyrrho was a welcome comrade in my pantheon of personified  ideas&#8230;<\/div>\n<p><\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">When I first encountered the name, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.healthyskepticism.org\/global\/\">Healthy Skepticism<\/a>, for the watchdog group, I thought it was a brilliant choice. It&#8217;s the essence of Science, at least to me. Our predecessors [Necromancer, Priest, Shaman, Alchemist, Guru, etc] each had their ideas about treatment, but the problem was that they believed in those ideas. So when things didn&#8217;t work, they kept at it and often hurt people &#8211; the dreaded <em>therapeutic zeal<\/em>. We&#8217;ve all done it as it&#8217;s such a hard lesson to hold to &#8211; a mistake just waiting to be repeated.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">In my first medical specialty, rheumatology, many of the diseases were of unknown etiology [still are]. Unlike psychiatry, there were plenty of visible signs and symptoms, laboratory abnormalities galore, but causes remain elusive. There were treatments &#8211; some empiric, some based on known mechanisms of disease &#8211; but most were toxic in one way or another, and often dangerous: high doses of Aspirin, Corticosteroids, Gold injections, antimalarial drugs, chemotherapeutic agents, biologicals. And both the toxicity and the efficacy varied widely from patient to patient. The principle is that every treatment in every patient is a therapeutic trial. There is often too much variability within a group of patients with the same disease to make individual predictions, so it was a medication trial in every patient. I understand that&#8217;s still somewhat true in rheumatology even with the newer agents [just listen to the mumbled ending to the t.v. ads for these drugs].<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">That principle must&#8217;ve followed me into psychiatry, because I still feel that way. I didn&#8217;t come to psychiatry to be a medication maven, but when using our drugs, I still see it as an individual therapeutic trial &#8211; the efficacy and safety data gathering starts anew with every case. In practice, it was easy because I saw people frequently. In the clinic where I now work some, it&#8217;s harder because I see people more frequently than most. But I guess I&#8217;d rather be a schedule clogger-upper than too casual with medications. That&#8217;s just healthy skepticism in my book &#8211; the lesson of old Pyrrho of Elis.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Right now, Dr. David Healy is coming towards the end of his series on the history of the use of <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Randomized<\/font><\/strong> Placebo-Controlled <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Clinical Trials<\/font><\/strong> and <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Evidence-Based Medicine<\/font><\/strong> with the stories of Lou Lasagna [US] and Michael Shepherd [UK] &#8211; the doctors that essentially introduced the RCTs to regulatory medicine and popularized their use:<\/div>\n<ul><sup><strong>                               <\/p>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/not-so-bad-pharma\/\" target=\"_blank\">Not So Bad Pharma<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/april-fool-in-harlow-anecdote-fishing-in-harlow\/\" target=\"_blank\">April Fool in Harlow: Anecdote Fishing in Harlow<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/the-tragedy-of-lou-lasagna\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Tragedy of Lou Lasagna<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/the-empire-of-humbug-bad-pharma\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Empire of Humbug: Bad Pharma<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/the-empire-of-humbug-not-so-bad-pharma\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Empire of Humbug: Not So Bad Pharma<\/a> &#8211; current<a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/the-empire-of-humbug-not-so-bad-pharma\/\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>   <\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#200020\">Brand Fascism and Witty A: Report to the President<\/font><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<p>      <\/strong><\/sup><\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">Healy uses the ultimate disillusionment of Lasagna and Shepherd with what their own brain-child became to bolster his case that these concepts have become mangled along the way and are often destructive to good medical practice &#8211; a point I absolutely agree with. I&#8217;ll leave you to read Dr. Healy&#8217;s story for yourself.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">My version above is simpler. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Randomized<\/font><\/strong> Placebo-Controlled <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Clinical Trials<\/font><\/strong> and <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Evidence-Based Medicine <\/font><\/strong>have been treated as dogma, absolute truth. But even the most honest of trials [rare in psychiatry] can dull the single most important thing physicians bring to the individual patient &#8211; their healthy skepticism. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Said Lou Lasagna:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">&ldquo;Evidence Based Medicine has become  synonymous with randomized placebo-controlled clinical trials even  though such trials invariably fail to tell the physician what he or she  wants to know which is which drug is best for Mr Jones or Ms Smith &ndash; not  what happens to a non-existent average person&rdquo;.<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you steal something from yourself, is it plagiarism? I said all of this before [my old Greek&hellip;], but I guess I want to say it again: Sometimes an idea comes along that sticks in the mind like it belongs there &ndash; like there was already a space patiently awaiting its arrival. 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