{"id":38261,"date":"2013-07-02T00:13:47","date_gmt":"2013-07-02T04:13:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=38261"},"modified":"2013-07-02T14:12:44","modified_gmt":"2013-07-02T18:12:44","slug":"no-red-flags","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/02\/no-red-flags\/","title":{"rendered":"no red flags&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div align=\"justify\">I did regressions among the reported means from the Atypical meta-analysis [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/01\/the-mother-of-meta\/\">the mother of meta&hellip;<\/a>] using only the Atypicals approved in the US starting with Risperidal in 1994. The only significant linear regressions I could find with an <font color=\"#200020\">Open Office Spreadsheet<\/font> were these two [my cabin didn&#8217;t come equipped with SAS]:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"520\" vspace=\"7\" border=\"0\" height=\"209\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsych-4.gif\" \/>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">The only correlation with Discontinuation Rate was Efficacy, not  Adverse Effects. These patients knew when the medication was effective  and when it wasn&#8217;t. When it wasn&#8217;t, they stopped it [as in CATIE]. The Efficacy of subsequent Atypicals actually declined with subsequent releases during the <em>Atypical Era<\/em>. It&#8217;s popular to call the later releases, &quot;me too&quot; drugs. I realize that the goal has been to eliminate the adverse effects, but for what it&#8217;s worth &#8211; it sure wasn&#8217;t improved efficacy. Speaking of adverse effects, they weren&#8217;t correlated with Approval Date:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"503\" vspace=\"5\" border=\"0\" height=\"366\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsych-5.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">Some of the things we all want to know aren&#8217;t in this meta-analysis &#8211; Tardive Dyskinesia, Diabetes, Hyperlipidemia. These are all the short-term trials so popular with the clinical research organization set. The authors were all over the hanky-panky, in particular the use of Haldol as the comparator and sole representative of the &quot;first generation&quot; drugs &#8211; both the high doses and for the EPS. As someone trained in the &quot;first generation&quot; I rarely used Haldol [this reminds me to talk to the pharmacist about getting some Trilifon].<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"336\" vspace=\"5\" border=\"0\" height=\"310\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsych-6.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">This&nbsp; diagram shows the various comparators for studies of Efficacy. Haldol was the main FGA and only slightly less common than Placebo. It was all pretty much a trick. These drugs are, indeed, antipsychotics like Thorazine and its first generation friends. I have no complaint that they were approved by the FDA for Psychosis. But their Efficacy was inflated; their toxicity was deflated, their broader non-psychotic use was non-specific, and the deception was industry-wide. As Drs. Tyrer and Kendall pointed out in 2009 [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/07\/01\/shouldve-listened-then\/\">should&rsquo;ve listened then&hellip;<\/a>]:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">The spurious invention of the atypicals can now be regarded as invention  only, cleverly manipulated by the drug industry for marketing purposes  and only now being exposed.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">And here&#8217;s one for the road:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsych-7.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">While the trend line is not significant, except for the outlier Iloperidone, it&#8217;s hard to look at that graph and not see the price of a little Efficacy being a lot of Weight Gain [maybe Metabolic Syndrome?] &#8211; much like the price of Efficacy with the FGAs was EPS [maybe TD?]. <\/div>\n<p> <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">These articles aren&#8217;t easy, but it&#8217;s not the authors&#8217; fault, it&#8217;s the density of hyperbole and deceit that they&#8217;re having to wade through. Their discussion of how they chose their articles alone is a subject for a PhD in something &#8211; they eliminated the questionable literature right and left. If you use these medications, this might be one of those articles to buy if you don&#8217;t have access. So far, I have hit no red flags&#8230;  <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I did regressions among the reported means from the Atypical meta-analysis [the mother of meta&hellip;] using only the Atypicals approved in the US starting with Risperidal in 1994. The only significant linear regressions I could find with an Open Office Spreadsheet were these two [my cabin didn&#8217;t come equipped with SAS]: &nbsp; The only correlation [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38261","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38261","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38261"}],"version-history":[{"count":27,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38261\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38332,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38261\/revisions\/38332"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38261"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38261"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38261"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}