{"id":3877,"date":"2010-02-10T20:09:08","date_gmt":"2010-02-11T01:09:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=3877"},"modified":"2010-02-10T20:09:08","modified_gmt":"2010-02-11T01:09:08","slug":"the-elephant-in-the-room","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/02\/10\/the-elephant-in-the-room\/","title":{"rendered":"the elephant in the room&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"288\" border=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/i.telegraph.co.uk\/telegraph\/multimedia\/archive\/01560\/David-Manning_1560385c.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Sir David Manning, Tony Blair&#8217;s foreign policy adviser, was heavily involved&nbsp; in the run-up to the Iraq Invasion. His version made Blair&#8217;s action fairly simple. When the American &quot;patience ran out,&quot; Blair stood by his word to Bush that the UK would be with the US until the end. Like Greenstock and Meyer, he felt we should have given the Inspectors more time.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">These three testimonies have a striking absence of something. They frequently mention the &quot;neocons,&quot; but they rarely talk about meeting with any of them.&nbsp; They say things like, &quot;American patience had run out&quot; or &quot;the Americans thought we&#8217;d given the UN Route a good chance.&quot; Yet, when asked about the American opinion, they all said, it depends on &quot;which American.&quot; Manning said that there were Americans who didn&#8217;t care about post-invasion Iraq. But beyond that, the American soldiers did not move into a peace-keeping mode after the fall of the regime. De-Ba&#8217;athification was universally seen as a disaster.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Everyone talked to Dr. Rice. Many talked with Colin Powell. If anyone talked with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, it wasn&#8217;t mentioned. Christopher Meyer reported talking with Scooter Libby and other staff. But by implication, he reinforced the picture of Dick Cheney&#8217;s inaccessibility. There were many questions and comments that suggested <u>an<\/u> American view &#8211; yet we know there were American view<u>s<\/u>. It was almost always the <strong>State Department<\/strong> vs <strong>OVP &amp; DOD<\/strong>. Rice [<strong>NSC<\/strong>] was a moderator it seems, listening to this testimony.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m reminded of the literature on &quot;co-dependency&quot; where people talk about the &quot;elephant in the room.&quot; What they&#8217;re talking about is that families of alcoholics tend to talk about what&#8217;s going on without discussing the main problem &#8211; that there&#8217;s an active alcoholic that&#8217;s the central, but unacknowledged, problem. In the case of the lead-up to the war, Dick Cheney&#8217;s opinions, manipulations, etc. were in the middle of everything that happened &#8211; everything. But at the time, Cheney was in the background&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sir David Manning, Tony Blair&#8217;s foreign policy adviser, was heavily involved&nbsp; in the run-up to the Iraq Invasion. His version made Blair&#8217;s action fairly simple. When the American &quot;patience ran out,&quot; Blair stood by his word to Bush that the UK would be with the US until the end. Like Greenstock and Meyer, he felt [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3877"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3877\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}