{"id":39407,"date":"2013-08-23T18:12:53","date_gmt":"2013-08-23T22:12:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=39407"},"modified":"2013-08-24T14:59:35","modified_gmt":"2013-08-24T18:59:35","slug":"psychiatrists-think","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/08\/23\/psychiatrists-think\/","title":{"rendered":"what <em>psychiatrists think<\/em>&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/archpsyc.jamanetwork.com\/article.aspx?articleid=1731662\" target=\"_blank\">Antipsychotics and the Risk of Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus in Children and Youth<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">by William V. Bobo, William O. Cooper, C. Michael Stein, Mark Olfson,  David Graham, James Daugherty, Catherine Fuchs, Wayne A. Ray<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">JAMA Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>. on-line first. August 21, 2013<\/div>\n<p>         <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Importance<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   The increased prescribing of antipsychotics for children and youth has heightened concerns that this practice increases the risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus. <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Objective<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   To compare the risk of type 2 diabetes in children and youth 6 to 24 years of age for recent initiators of antipsychotic drugs vs propensity score&ndash;matched controls who had recently initiated another psychotropic medication.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Design, Setting, and Participants<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   Retrospective cohort study of the Tennessee Medicaid program with 28&thinsp;858 recent initiators of antipsychotic drugs and 14&thinsp;429 matched controls. The cohort excluded patients who previously received a diagnosis of diabetes, schizophrenia, or some other condition for which antipsychotics are the only generally recognized therapy.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Main Outcomes and Measures<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   Newly diagnosed diabetes during follow-up, as identified from diagnoses and diabetes medication prescriptions.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Results<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   Users of antipsychotics had a 3-fold increased risk for type 2 diabetes [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;3.03 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.73-5.32]], which was apparent within the first year of follow-up [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;2.49 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.27-4.88]]. The risk increased with cumulative dose during follow-up, with HRs of 2.13 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.06-4.27], 3.42 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.88-6.24], and 5.43 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;2.34-12.61] for respective cumulative doses [gram equivalents of chlorpromazine] of more than 5 g, 5 to 99 g, and 100 g or more [P&thinsp;&lt;&thinsp;.04]. The risk remained elevated for up to 1 year following discontinuation of antipsychotic use [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;2.57 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.34-4.91]]. When the cohort was restricted to children 6 to 17 years of age, antipsychotic users had more than a 3-fold increased risk of type 2 diabetes [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;3.14 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.50-6.56]], and the risk increased significantly with increasing cumulative dose [P&thinsp;&lt;&thinsp;.03]. The risk was increased for use restricted to atypical antipsychotics [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;2.89 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.64-5.10]] or to risperidone [HR&thinsp;=&thinsp;2.20 [95% CI&thinsp;=&thinsp;1.14-4.26]].<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Conclusions and Relevance<\/font><\/strong><\/u>   Children and youth prescribed antipsychotics had an increased risk of type 2 diabetes that increased with cumulative dose.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Several years ago, I reported on a study [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/10\/19\/simplicity\/\">9 words&hellip;<\/a>] in the <strong><font color=\"#004400\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> about the singular rise of the use of Atypical Antipsychotics in children:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/cgi\/content\/abstract\/168\/10\/1057\" target=\"_blank\">National Trends in the Antipsychotic Treatment of Psychiatric Outpatients With Anxiety Disorders<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">by Jonathan S. Comer,  Ramin Mojtabai, and  Mark Olfson<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#004400\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> 2011 168:1057-1065.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Conclusions<\/font><\/strong><\/u>:  Although little is known about their effectiveness for anxiety    disorders, antipsychotic medications are becoming increasingly    prescribed to psychiatric outpatients with these disorders.<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" vspace=\"5\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/anx-2.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">It was accompanied with an editorial [see <a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/10\/14\/nothing-is-simple-anymore\/\" target=\"_blank\">nothing is simple anymore&hellip;<\/a>] by <em>academic<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/psychiatry.medicine.iu.edu\/faculty-listing\/alan-breier\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Alan Breier<\/a> saying we needed &quot;more research&quot; before worrying about such things. Dr. Breier turned out to be an <em>academic<\/em> only since he left being the chief scientist at Eli Lilly in charge of Zyprexa right before Zyprexa received a then record breaking fine for marketing practices with this drug [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.justice.gov\/opa\/pr\/2009\/January\/09-civ-038.html\" target=\"_blank\">Eli Lilly and Company Agrees to Pay $1.415 Billion to Resolve Allegations of Off-label Promotion of Zyprexa<\/a>]. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Then, I sat through the testimony at the Texas TMAP Trial and heard the sales reps talk about downplaying the risks with Risperdal in kids as they <em>detaile<\/em>d child psychiatrists who saw lots of Foster Children [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2012\/01\/19\/a-1-market\/\">a 1% market&hellip;<\/a>]:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">He freely described his Sales Reps promoting Risperal in children. One  strategy was to start with Concerta [McNeil&#8217;s ADHD drug] then move to  Risperdal &ndash; using Concerta to get in the door. He explained, &quot;You can&rsquo;t  be a billion dollar product in a 1%&nbsp; market [Schizophrenia]. The  evidence [email chains, Call Notes] showed that the focus was on  promoting Risperdal in kids, and went up and down the hierarchy in  Janssen&rsquo;s sales force &ndash; from the top dogs to the rep on the calls &ndash; in  other words, it was corporate policy. Toni&rsquo;s testimony included other  things too. Texas Medicaid was a target [&quot;big payer&quot;]. <strong><font color=\"#990000\">The reps fought  the allegations in the FDA Warning about Diabetes on &quot;every sales call.&quot;<\/font><\/strong>  They were trained on how to sell &quot;off-label&quot; eg, a training slide about  promoting Risperdal in kids under 13 said &quot;most diagnosed with behavior  disorders or mood disorders&quot;, &quot;No Indications!!!&quot;, &quot;sell on symptoms  not diagnosis&quot;. These were not rogue reps, they were trained to carry  the message.&nbsp; <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">And, of course, there was all that malarky with Dr. Biederman&#8217;s invented epidemic of childhood Bipolar Disorder [which seemed to be prevalent in Foster Children on Medicaid]. And then I read that the number one drug cost in Medicaid Children is Atypical Antipsychotics [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2013\/08\/13\/deserves-a-full-evaluation\/\">deserves a full evaluation&hellip;<\/a>]:<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"499\" vspace=\"7\" height=\"174\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/kids-ap-1.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">So now after the patents have run out, we get some of that &quot;more research&quot; that was needed on antipsychotics in children. Well there it is:<\/div>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsychotic-kids-diabetes-1.gif\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m not complaining about this recent article. I appreciate their sticking to the task until they could find a cohort that was available to demonstrate <strong><font color=\"#200020\">what we already knew a long time ago<\/font><\/strong>. This kind of epidemiological research is hard work, and they&#8217;re to be commended for doing it. And speaking of Bipolar Disorder in children:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"274\" height=\"341\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/antipsychotic-kids-diabetes-2.gif\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Three points: First, We often read that the pharmaceutical industry has a real burden because it&#8217;s so hard to get drugs approved. I would just say that once they get on the market and turn out to be much more toxic that advertised, it&#8217;s not very easy to spread that word or get adequate warnings approved either &#8211; the black box warning on antidepressants in youth to wit. Look how long it&#8217;s taken to get this well-known diabetes issue on the table. Second, the tactic of asking for &quot;more research&quot; to postpone action is a delaying technique until the patent runs out. That is clearly evident in this story of antipsychotics in children. And finally, when I read articles like Dr. Lieberman&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/psychnews.psychiatryonline.org\/newsarticle.aspx?articleID=1723795\">Time to Re-Engage With Pharma?<\/a> or Dr. Friedman&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/08\/20\/health\/a-dry-pipeline-for-psychiatric-drugs.html?_r=0\" target=\"_blank\">A Dry Pipeline for Psychiatric Drugs<\/a> [where he says we just need to accept more risk and wants to &quot;&hellip; entice the drug makers to reinvest in psychiatric drug development&quot;], I wonder what my colleagues are thinking. Actually, I wonder if they&#8217;re my colleagues at all, or for that matter, I wonder if they&#8217;re even thinking. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" vspace=\"2\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/atypicals-2.gif\" \/>I still wince when people say, <em>&quot;psychiatrists think &#8230;&quot;<\/em> as if we are of one mind and APA President Jeffrey Lieberman or NYT contributor Richard Friedman are speaking for the collective. I want to react and say, &quot;but this author, Mark Olfson, and the authors at Vanderbilt, are psychiatrists; David Healy is a psychiatrist; Ben Goldacre is a psychiatrist too; etc.&quot; But I don&#8217;t say those things because if I weren&#8217;t a psychiatrist, I expect I&#8217;d say that same <em>&quot;psychiatrists think &#8230;&quot;<\/em> thing myself. I&#8217;ve personally lived through an era when some kind of medication, presently available or as yet undiscovered, became <strong><font color=\"#200020\">the<\/font><\/strong> answer to mental illness. The truth is that medication is only sometimes <strong><font color=\"#200020\">an<\/font><\/strong> answer, or <strong><font color=\"#200020\">part of an answer<\/font><\/strong>, but it never was nor never will be <strong><font color=\"#200020\">the<\/font><\/strong> answer. Sometimes it&#8217;s vital, but that&#8217;s not very often. We all know that, and I think anybody with good sense has always known that. It&#8217;s the getting back to what we all know that&#8217;s the current dilemma. We&#8217;re twenty years beyond the introduction of the first Atypical Antipsychotic, and the results of this current study were predictable in those very first years. There&#8217;s no excuse for that time lag &#8211; it was actively created. But the task for the moment continues to be the same, making sure that results like these have a palpable impact on what <em>psychiatrists think<\/em>&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Antipsychotics and the Risk of Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus in Children and Youth by William V. Bobo, William O. Cooper, C. Michael Stein, Mark Olfson, David Graham, James Daugherty, Catherine Fuchs, Wayne A. Ray JAMA Psychiatry. on-line first. 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