{"id":4039,"date":"2010-04-25T09:51:23","date_gmt":"2010-04-25T13:51:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4039"},"modified":"2010-07-26T15:59:14","modified_gmt":"2010-07-26T19:59:14","slug":"more-lessons-from-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/04\/25\/more-lessons-from-history\/","title":{"rendered":"more lessons from history&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">In <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/wp-admin\/..\/index.php\/2010\/04\/25\/dick-cheneys-lessons-from-history\/\">Dick Cheney&rsquo;s lessons from history&hellip;<\/a><\/strong> I began to list some of the examples from Vice President Cheney&#8217;s past that he carried through into his Vice Presidency which might have been models for those under him. There were other examples for Jose Rodriguez [who ordered the CIA Tapes destroyed on November 9, 2005] &#8211; for example, President Bush&#8217;s absent military records. But as for more specific factors, we&#8217;ve already noted that the tapes were destroyed only days after the <strong>Washington Post<\/strong> broke the story identifying the CIA &quot;<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/11\/01\/AR2005110101644.html\"><strong>black  sites<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong>&quot; But there was <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lewis_Libby\"><strong>something else<\/strong><\/a> that also immediately antedated the tape destruction &#8211; the indictment of Cheney&#8217;s Chief of Staff:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"90\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"125\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" title=\"I. Lewis [Scooter] Libby\" alt=\"I. Lewis [Scooter] Libby\" src=\"http:\/\/t1.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:xy8JikxToGEjlM:http:\/\/blogs.kansas.com\/weblog\/files\/libbyscooter.jpg\" \/>On October 28, 2005, as a result of the CIA leak grand jury  investigation, Special  Counsel Fitzgerald indicted [I. Lewis &quot;Scooter&quot;] Libby on five counts: one count of  obstruction of justice two counts of making false statements when  interviewed by agents of the FBI, and two counts of  perjury in his testimony before the grand jury. Pursuant to the grand jury investigation, Libby had told FBI investigators that he  first heard of Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s CIA employment from Cheney, and then later  heard it from journalist Tim  Russert, and acted as if he did not have that information. The indictment alleges that statements to federal investigators and the  grand jury were intentionally false, in that Libby had numerous  conversations about Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s <span class=\"mw-redirect\">CIA<\/span>  employment, including his conversations with Judith Miller, before  speaking to Russert; Russert did not tell Libby about Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s CIA  employment; prior to talking with such reporters, Libby knew with  certainty that she was employed by the CIA; and Libby told reporters  that she worked for the CIA without making any disclaimer that he was  uncertain of that fact. The false statements counts in the Libby indictment charge that he  intentionally made those false claims to the FBI; the perjury counts  charge that he intentionally lied to the grand jury in repeating those  false claims; and the obstruction of justice count charges that Libby  intentionally made those false statements in order to mislead the grand  jury, thus impeding Fitzgerald&#8217;s grand jury investigation of the truth  about the leaking of Mrs. Wilson&#8217;s then-classified, covert CIA identity.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald had indicted the Vice President&#8217;s Chief of Staff after jailing Reporter Judith Miller for withholding evidence. Fitzgerald meant business, and that can&#8217;t have been lost on Rodriguez who knew that the CIA was sitting on an as yet secret time bomb &#8211; the Interrogation Tapes. Recall that at the time of the interrogations, Rodriguez was at the CIA\/CTC and had been involved with bringing Jessen and Mitchell on board as contractors. But the big example for Rodriguez was from the Reagan years &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>the Iran-Contra Affair<\/strong><\/a> and Colonel Ollie North:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"170\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" title=\"Fawn  Hall\" alt=\"Fawn Hall\" src=\"http:\/\/www.anusha.com\/fawnhall.jpg\" \/>The scandal was compounded when Oliver  North destroyed or hid pertinent documents between November 21 and  November 25, 1986. During North&#8217;s trial in 1989, his secretary, Fawn  Hall, testified extensively about helping North alter, shred, and  remove official United States National  Security Council documents from the White House. According to <em>The  New York Times<\/em>, enough documents were put into a government  shredder to jam it. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">North&#8217;s explanation for destroying some documents was to protect the  lives of individuals involved in Iran and Contra  operations.<\/font><\/strong> It wasn&#8217;t until years after the trial that North&#8217;s notebooks were made  public, and only after the National Security Archive and Public Citizen sued the Office of the  Independent Council under the Freedom of  Information Act.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">During the trial North testified that on November 21, 22, or 24, he  witnessed Poindexter destroy what may have been the only signed copy of a  presidential covert-action finding that sought to authorize CIA  participation in the November 1985 Hawk  missile shipment to Iran. US Attorney General Edwin  Meese admitted on November 25 that profits from weapons sales to  Iran were made available to assist the Contra rebels in Nicaragua. On  the same day, John Poindexter resigned, and Oliver North was fired by  President Reagan. Poindexter was replaced by Frank Carlucci on December 2, 1986.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">In his expose <em>Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981&ndash;1987<\/em>,  journalist Bob Woodward chronicles the role of the CIA in  facilitating the transfer of funds from the Iran arms sales to the  Nicaraguan Contras spearheaded by Oliver North. Then Director of the CIA, William J. Casey, admitted to Woodward in February 1987 that  he was aware of the diversion of funds to the contras confirming a  number of encounters documented by Woodward. The admission occurred while Casey was hospitalized for a stroke. On  May 6, 1987 William Casey died the day after Congress began its public  hearings on the Iran-contra affair.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">In return for his testimony, Ollie North was granted immunity. In much of the coverage, in part because of his boy scout appearance [and the glamor of secretary Fawn Hall], North was portrayed as some kind of patriotic hero. All of this can&#8217;t have been lost on Jose Rodriguez and others in the CIA. <\/div>\n<p> <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">So, Jose Rodriguez seems to be following protocol. <em>Don&#8217;t make Scooter Libby&#8217;s mistake and testify before a Grand Jury where you might perjure yourself.&nbsp; And hold out for immunity like Ollie North had done a decade before.<\/em> Notice that the <a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/tapes_3.gif\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>CIA<\/strong><\/a> uses the same rationale as North: &quot;<strong><font color=\"#200020\">to protect the  lives of individuals involved  in &#8230;  operations<\/font><\/strong>.&quot; Given the precedents, the question &quot;<strong><font color=\"#200020\">Why Were CIA Interrogation Tapes Destroyed?<\/font><\/strong>&quot; begins to be replaced with &quot;<strong><font color=\"#200020\">What are we going to do about it <u>this time<\/u>?<\/font><\/strong>&quot; So far, the Prosecutor, <strong>John Durham<\/strong>, has not offered Rodriguez immunity&#8230; <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Dick Cheney&rsquo;s lessons from history&hellip; I began to list some of the examples from Vice President Cheney&#8217;s past that he carried through into his Vice Presidency which might have been models for those under him. There were other examples for Jose Rodriguez [who ordered the CIA Tapes destroyed on November 9, 2005] &#8211; for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4039","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4039","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4039"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4039\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4039"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4039"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4039"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}