{"id":4045,"date":"2010-04-27T06:38:31","date_gmt":"2010-04-27T10:38:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4045"},"modified":"2010-04-27T06:42:41","modified_gmt":"2010-04-27T10:42:41","slug":"the-diplomatic-side-had-prevailed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/04\/27\/the-diplomatic-side-had-prevailed\/","title":{"rendered":"the diplomatic side had prevailed&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">No, I&#8217;m not going to post every sexual abuse case that gets reported from the Catholic Church. I&#8217;m posting this one for a reason. The Pope&#8217;s defenders are pointing out that he did try <em>some<\/em> to deal with the sexual predators in the church in his earlier days, but was unsuccessful in overcoming the prevailing culture. Essentially, they are saying that he was good a lot, so that should make up for the fact that he was some bad. He had the right heart, they might say, but the forces he was dealing with were just too strong. That is the same argument the church has made for their child molesters. They did a lot of good, but in their struggle with celibacy, they just secumbed to the call of the flesh sometimes [This form of argument sounds a bit like, &quot;Hitler was good for the German national pride, but had a few quirks&quot;].<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/04\/27\/world\/europe\/27vienna.html?pagewanted=3&#038;ref=global-home\" target=\"_blank\">Future  Pope Tried to Get Fuller Inquiry in Abuse Case<\/a><br \/>  The New York Times <\/strong><br \/>  By KATRIN  BENNHOLD<br \/>  April 26, 2010<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">VIENNA &mdash; As <span class=\"meta-per\">Pope  Benedict XVI<\/span> has come under scrutiny for his handling of sexual  abuse cases, both his supporters and his critics have paid fresh  attention to the way he responded to a sexual abuse scandal in Austria  in the 1990s, one of the most damaging to confront the church in Europe. Defenders of Benedict cite his role in dealing with Cardinal Hans  Hermann Gro&euml;r of Vienna as evidence that he moved assertively, if  quietly, against abusers. They point to the fact that Cardinal Gro&euml;r  left office six months after accusations against him of molesting boys  first appeared in the Austrian news media in 1995. The future pope, they  say, favored a full canonical investigation, only to be blocked by  other ranking officials in the <span class=\"meta-org\">Vatican<\/span>. \t\t<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> A detailed look at the rise and fall of the clergyman, who died in 2003,  and the involvement of Benedict, a Bavarian theologian with many  connections to German-speaking Austria, paints a more complex picture. Benedict, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, had the ear of <span class=\"meta-per\">Pope  John Paul II<\/span> and was able to block a favored candidate for  archbishop of Vienna, clearing the way for Father Gro&euml;r to assume the  post in 1986, say senior church officials and priests with knowledge of  the process. His critics question how this influence failed him nine  years later in seeking a fuller investigation into the case&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> The Gro&euml;r case occurred before the most recent public uproar over sexual  abuse in the American church, and also before Cardinal Ratzinger was  formally given the task of supervising the Vatican&rsquo;s response to such  scandals in 2001. But it was also not an ordinary case of abuse. It involved a clergyman,  Cardinal Gro&euml;r, with influential friends in the Roman Curia, the  church&rsquo;s administrative body, and a reported bond with John Paul over  their shared devotion to the Virgin Mary. The results of a Vatican  investigation at Cardinal Gro&euml;r&rsquo;s abbey in 1998 have never been released  by the Vatican. Four Austrian bishops, including his successor in Vienna, Archbishop  Christoph Sch&ouml;nborn, now a cardinal, have deemed the accusations against  Cardinal Gro&euml;r accurate with &ldquo;moral certainty.&rdquo; Some of his young  victims, whose estimated number ranges from half a dozen to 30, later  recounted how he would ask them to come to his room for confession,  demand they take off their clothes and then abuse them&#8230; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> The rumors surrounding Cardinal Gro&euml;r&rsquo;s transgressions went beyond the  circle of those who suffered at his hands. Josef Votzi, the journalist  who broke the scandal in 1995 in the magazine Profil, is another  Hollabrunn alumnus and said that even among staff members of the Vienna Archdiocese he interviewed when Father Gro&euml;r was  named archbishop, his history was &ldquo;an open secret.&rdquo; In 1995, a victim came forward, telling Profil that the archbishop, then  his religion teacher and confessor, had sexually abused him for four  years two decades earlier at Hollabrunn.\t\t<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> In Rome a few weeks later, Cardinal Sch&ouml;nborn said, Cardinal Ratzinger  told him behind closed doors that he wanted to set up a fact-finding  commission to establish clarity. &ldquo;That for me is one of the best  indications that I know from personal experience that today&rsquo;s pope had a  very decisive, clear way of handling abuse cases,&rdquo; he said. In a subsequent conversation later that year, Benedict &ldquo;explicitly  regretted that the commission had not been set up,&rdquo; Cardinal Sch&ouml;nborn  said. &ldquo;It became clear very quickly that the current that prevailed in  Rome was not the one demanding clarity here. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Cardinal Ratzinger told me  that the other side, the diplomatic side, had prevailed&rdquo;&#8230;<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> In 1996, Cardinal Gro&euml;r was named head of a priory in Germany then  overseen by G&ouml;ttweig Abbey and still appeared at official church  functions. This sparked a vocal rebellion in G&ouml;ttweig in late 1997,  among some of his former students and victims, who called for his  resignation. Faced with such upheaval, church officials removed Cardinal Gro&euml;r from  the priory and sent him back in January to the convent where he had  lived after he was forced out in 1995. Shortly afterward, John Paul II  approved a Vatican investigation&#8230; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> Abbot Franziskus Heereman, who helped conduct the inquiry, or  visitation, says that Cardinal Ratzinger was the driving force inside  the Vatican behind the investigation. After the one-week visitation ended in March, Cardinal Gro&euml;r was removed  from the priory (for &ldquo;health reasons&rdquo;), told to stay out of public view  and sent to a convent in eastern Germany for six months.<strong><font color=\"#200020\"> &ldquo;Imposing on a  cardinal to stay out of the public view and forbidding him to take part  in official ceremonies is a very serious punishment,&rdquo; Cardinal  Sch&ouml;nborn said&#8230;<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"> Father Schermann said, &ldquo;They did as much as they had at each point in  time given the public outcry, and no more.&rdquo;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m sorry, but <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Cardinal Ratzinger told me  that the other  side, the diplomatic side, had prevailed<\/font><\/strong> is a dog that doesn&#8217;t hunt. And this one isn&#8217;t going to win many hearts and minds either, <strong><font color=\"#200020\">&ldquo;Imposing on a  cardinal to stay out of the  public view and forbidding him to take part  in official ceremonies is a  very serious punishment,&rdquo; Cardinal  Sch&ouml;nborn said<\/font><\/strong>.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, I&#8217;m not going to post every sexual abuse case that gets reported from the Catholic Church. I&#8217;m posting this one for a reason. The Pope&#8217;s defenders are pointing out that he did try some to deal with the sexual predators in the church in his earlier days, but was unsuccessful in overcoming the prevailing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4045","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4045","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4045"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4045\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4045"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4045"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4045"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}