{"id":4094,"date":"2010-05-16T07:30:03","date_gmt":"2010-05-16T11:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4094"},"modified":"2010-05-16T08:34:06","modified_gmt":"2010-05-16T12:34:06","slug":"re-forming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/05\/16\/re-forming\/","title":{"rendered":"faith&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/comment\/faith\/article7125345.ece\">Gay marriage  and abortion are &#8216;insidious challenge to society&#8217; says Pope<\/a><br \/>   <font color=\"#000000\">TIMES<\/font><font color=\"#00cc00\">ONLINE<\/font><\/strong><br \/>   by Richard Owen, Fatima and Ruth Gledhill<br \/>   May 14, 2010 <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"> <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Pope Benedict XVI yesterday condemned gay marriage and abortion as  &ldquo;among the  most insidious and dangerous challenges&rdquo; to society<\/font><\/strong>. Speaking on a visit to Portugal, which is preparing to legalise same-sex   partnerships, the Pontiff also criticised Catholics who are ashamed of  their  faith and too willing to &ldquo;lend a hand to secularism.&rdquo; The gay marriage legislation was recently passed by the Portuguese  parliament  and is due to be signed into law next week by President Anibal Cavaco  Silva,  a conservative Catholic. Ninety per cent of Portuguese define themselves  as  Catholic but Portuguese society is increasingly secular, with well under  a  third saying they attend mass regularly&#8230;<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Meeting Catholic charity workers at the shrine, the Pope called for  &ldquo;defence  of life&rdquo; and &ldquo;indissoluble marriage between a man and a woman&rdquo; in  response  to what he described as t<strong><font color=\"#200020\">he dangerous threats of gay marriage and  abortion<\/font><\/strong>.  He offered his thanks to those who helped people &ldquo;wounded by the drama  of  abortion&rdquo;. His words will be studied in Britain where Catholics prepare for their  own  visit by the Pope in September. In the pre-election television debates,  David Cameron said he disagreed with the Pope&rsquo;s teaching on  homosexuality.  The Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg indicated he agreed with Mr  Cameron&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Independent of one&#8217;s thoughts on either of these issues, gay marriage and abortion, it&#8217;s hard to figure how they are <em>among the  most insidious and dangerous  challenges<\/em> <em>to society<\/em>. This kind of talk cannot be grounded in a rational look at our society that I understand &#8211; particularly the issue of gay marriage. It seems likely that the actual point is more apparent in this statement: <em>the Pontiff also criticized Catholics who are ashamed of  their  faith  and too willing to lend a hand to secularism<\/em>.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Once, long ago, before the in vogue epithet was <em>liberal<\/em>, someone said to me, &quot;<em>you secular humanists all think<\/em>&#8230;&quot; I had never heard the term before. I was in a club that I didn&#8217;t know existed &#8211; the <em>secular humanist<\/em> club. It was in the days before the Internet, so it was a while before I ran across the meaning of the term. <em>Secular humanism is a humanist philosophy that espouses reason, ethics,  and justice, and specifically rejects the supernatural and religious  dogma as the basis of morality and decision-making <\/em>[sounds good to me]<em>. <\/em>I&#8217;ve since heard it frequently, but never as anything but a slur. It&#8217;s a way of defining an enemy as if it is a cohesive group. Well, there may be secular humanists meeting on the sly, but I&#8217;ve never heard of them. It means someone who isn&#8217;t religious or doesn&#8217;t look to religious dogma for answers [which is a lot of us].<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">There&#8217;s something else in the Pope&#8217;s statement besides the invective &#8211; <em>secularism<\/em>. He says the reason some Catholics might support abortion or gay marriage is that they are <em>ashamed of  their  faith<\/em>. In his scenario:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div>abortion and gay marriage are dangerous challenges to society <\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div>secularism is a bad thing, and an enemy of the Catholic Church <\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>support for these things is because people are ashamed of their faith <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">It&#8217;s very hard for we erstwhile secular humanists to get into the right  mindset to hear the Pope in his own context. In his universe, the Catholic Church defines society. And secularism is a term that <em>ism<\/em>-izes rational thought &#8211; as if it is a belief system. I suppose it&#8217;s something like the question, &quot;Do you believe in evolution?&quot; &#8211; again, as if evolution is a belief system rather than simply the narrative applied to a large body of clear scientific observations.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">And then there&#8217;s <em>faith<\/em> [treat yourself to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/cathen\/05752c.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>definition of faith<\/strong><\/a> in the <strong>Catholic Encyclopedia<\/strong>]. In the case of these two issues, <em>faith<\/em> requires one to believe some odd things. Women who have sex and become pregnant should have children whether they want them or not. Ergo, insuring that the world is populated by a lot of unwanted children is a good thing. Homosexual people should not be allowed to enter into committed relationships with each other &#8211; rather they should be celibate, promiscuous, or pretend not to be homosexual. <em>Faith<\/em> then decrees that unwanted children and homosexual people living as outcasts are good for society. And <em>Faith<\/em>, in this light, requires passing judgment on other people, rather than something to do with oneself. Maybe the Pope is right. If <em>faith<\/em> means punishing others for their sexuality, I&#8217;d be ashamed too.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Much more likely, the words of the Pope are more about the <strong>authority<\/strong> of the church than anything else. And by <em>faith<\/em>, he means <em>faith<\/em> in the Catholic Church [whether he knows it or not]. Authority comes in two flavors. &quot;By the authority invested in me by the state of California, I do declare &#8230;&quot; &#8211; delegated authority. And &quot;He is an authority in particle physics &#8230;&quot; &#8211; the authority of wisdom or knowledge. The Catholic Church is running on the former right now [delegated authority] and looking very shaky on the latter [wisdom]. And I expect faith in the Catholic Church is reaching a low ebb &#8211; particularly in the area of sexuality.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">What the Pope calls secularism [rational thought] isn&#8217;t going to move towards the Catholic Church. That much is clear. And in a place like Portugal, which is mostly Catholic, the kind of blind faith the Pope wants is obviously eroding. Fertility rates in Portugal are low [1.37 births\/woman] and falling, pointing to the widespread use of birth control. Abortion was legalized in 2007.  Homosexual marriage is soon to be legal. It appears that Catholic people are <em>reforming<\/em> [as in forming again] the church in spite of an anachronistic Vatican and Pope. They&#8217;re not ashamed of their faith. They just don&#8217;t have so much of it anymore &#8211; for good reason&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gay marriage and abortion are &#8216;insidious challenge to society&#8217; says Pope TIMESONLINE by Richard Owen, Fatima and Ruth Gledhill May 14, 2010 Pope Benedict XVI yesterday condemned gay marriage and abortion as &ldquo;among the most insidious and dangerous challenges&rdquo; to society. 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