{"id":4247,"date":"2010-07-22T08:56:27","date_gmt":"2010-07-22T12:56:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4247"},"modified":"2010-07-22T15:43:05","modified_gmt":"2010-07-22T19:43:05","slug":"did-we-create-al-qaeda-the-database","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/07\/22\/did-we-create-al-qaeda-the-database\/","title":{"rendered":"did <u>we<\/u> create al Qaeda [<em>the Database<\/em>]?&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robin_Cook\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" vspace=\"2\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"70\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/t1.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:D3tp6UcoMbkRAM:http:\/\/www.hebig.org\/blogs\/archives\/main\/robin_cook.jpg\" alt=\"Robin Cook\" title=\"Robin Cook\" \/>Robin Cook<\/strong><\/a> was the Leader of the House of Commons who resigned over the UK&#8217;s involvement in the Iraq War. He was Foreign Secretary during Blair&#8217;s first term, but was demoted in June 2001 with Blair&#8217;s reelection and replaced by Jack Straw. This is from an opinion piece he wrote after the terrorist attack on London, some two weeks before his death from a heart attack at age 59:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/uk\/2005\/jul\/08\/july7.development\">The struggle against terrorism cannot be won by military means<\/a><br \/>       The Guardian<\/strong><br \/>       by Robin Cook<br \/>       8 July 2005<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">&#8230;Osama bin Laden is no more a true  representative of Islam than General Mladic, who commanded the Serbian  forces, could be held up as an example of Christianity. After all, it is  written in the Qur&#8217;an that we were made into different peoples not that  we might despise each other, but that we might understand each other. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Bin  Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western  security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded  by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of  Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally &quot;the database&quot;, was originally the  computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and  trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and  with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to  Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden&#8217;s organisation  would turn its attention to the west.<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The danger now is that  the west&#8217;s current response to the terrorist threat compounds that  original error. So long as the struggle against terrorism is conceived  as a war that can be won by military means, it is doomed to fail. The  more the west emphasises confrontation, the more it silences moderate  voices in the Muslim world who want to speak up for cooperation. Success  will only come from isolating the terrorists and denying them support,  funds and recruits, which means focusing more on our common ground with  the Muslim world than on what divides us.  <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">&#8230; In particular, it would be perverse if  the focus of the G8 on making poverty history was now obscured by  yesterday&#8217;s bombings. The breeding grounds of terrorism are to be found  in the poverty of back streets, where fundamentalism offers a false,  easy sense of pride and identity to young men who feel denied of any  hope or any economic opportunity for themselves. A war on world poverty  may well do more for the security of the west than a war on terror. And  in the privacy of their extensive suites, yesterday&#8217;s atrocities should  prompt heart-searching among some of those present. President Bush is  given to justifying the invasion of Iraq on the grounds that by fighting  terrorism abroad, it protects the west from having to fight terrorists  at home. Whatever else can be said in defence of the war in Iraq today,  it cannot be claimed that it has protected us from terrorism on our  soil.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">The <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Al-Qaeda\" target=\"_blank\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Wikipedia<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/a> article on al Qaeda summarizes the counterargument to Robin Cook&#8217;s assessment:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Al-Qaeda\">Alleged CIA involvement<\/a><\/strong><br \/>  <sup>Main article: <u><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden\">Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden<\/a><\/u><\/sup><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Experts debate whether or not the al-Qaeda attacks were blowback from the American CIA&#8217;s &quot;<strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Operation_Cyclone\" title=\"Operation Cyclone\">Operation Cyclone<\/a><\/strong>&quot; program to help the Afghan mujahideen. Robin Cook,  British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001, has written that al-Qaeda  and Bin Laden were &quot;a product of a monumental miscalculation by western  security agencies&quot;, and that &quot;Al-Qaida, literally &quot;the database&quot;, was  originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were  recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Munir Akram, Permanent Representative of Pakistan to the United Nations from 2002 to 2008, wrote in a letter published in the New York Times on January 19, 2008:<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<ul>  The strategy to support the Afghans against Soviet military  intervention was evolved by several intelligence agencies, including the  C.I.A. and Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI. After the Soviet  withdrawal, the Western powers walked away from the region, leaving  behind 40,000 militants imported from several countries to wage the  anti-Soviet jihad. Pakistan was left to face the blowback of extremism,  drugs and guns.  <\/ul>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">A variety of sources&mdash;CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro&mdash;deny  that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the foreign  mujahideen or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or  indoctrinated them.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">This runs counter to the account of Milton Bearden,  the CIA Field Officer for Afghanistan from 1985 to 1989, who distinctly  recalls the unease he used to feel when meeting the Jihadi fighters:  &quot;The only times that I ran into any real trouble in Afghanistan was when  I ran into &#8216;these guys&#8217;&nbsp;&ndash; You know there&#8217;d be kind of a &#8216;moment&#8217; or two  that would look a little bit like the bar scene in Star Wars, ya know.  Each group kinda jockeying around and finally somebody has to diffuse the situation.&quot;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit  foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the  land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to  fight;&nbsp; that foreign mujahideen themselves had no need for American funds since  they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American,  Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen  because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them  to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan  Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to  Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim  Afghans.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">According to Peter Bergen,  known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin  Laden in 1997, the idea that &quot;the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin  Laden &#8230;[is] a folk myth. There&#8217;s no evidence of this. &#8230; Bin Laden  had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly  and independently. &#8230; The real story here is the CIA didn&#8217;t really have  a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to  really start tracking him.&quot; But as Bergen himself admitted, in one &quot;strange incident&quot; the CIA did appear to give visa help to mujahideen-recruiter Omar Abdel-Rahman.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">I would come down on the side that we were more involved with al Qaeda&#8217;s creation than we&#8217;d like to admit. Formerly, our Middle Eastern policies were very much like something from a John Le Carr\u00c3\u00a9 novel &#8211; allying with the Shah in Iran, supporting Saddam Hussein in the Iraq\/Iran War, the antics of Ollie North in the Iran Contra Affair, backing the mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Russians. We had no idea what we were doing. We treated the Middle East as if it were our old adversary, the Communists, when it was a very different part of the world with a very different history and remarkably different operative forces. At the least, we made disastrous judgments in almost every aspect of our Middle Eastern policy and almost universally misread the lay of the land and the complexity of its leaders. We tried to create puppets in a place where people were determined to pull their own strings. I suspect there is much merit to Robin Cook&#8217;s assertion. And the truth of his title, <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/uk\/2005\/jul\/08\/july7.development\">The struggle against terrorism cannot be won by military means<\/a><\/strong>, seems absolute<strong>.<\/strong>..<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robin Cook was the Leader of the House of Commons who resigned over the UK&#8217;s involvement in the Iraq War. He was Foreign Secretary during Blair&#8217;s first term, but was demoted in June 2001 with Blair&#8217;s reelection and replaced by Jack Straw. This is from an opinion piece he wrote after the terrorist attack on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4247","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4247","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4247"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4247\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4247"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4247"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4247"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}