{"id":4259,"date":"2010-07-27T01:46:13","date_gmt":"2010-07-27T05:46:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4259"},"modified":"2010-07-27T08:09:56","modified_gmt":"2010-07-27T12:09:56","slug":"the-public-got-it-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/07\/27\/the-public-got-it-right\/","title":{"rendered":"the public got it right&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/opinion\/commentators\/menzies-campbell-iraq-was-always-wrong-now-we-have-proof-2034880.html\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Iraq was always wrong. Now we have proof<\/strong><\/a><br \/>     <sup>The Chilcot inquiry confirms what most suspected &ndash; the reasons for war were bogus. <\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><sup>In future, such decisions must be transparent<\/sup><br \/>     <strong>The Independent UK<\/strong><br \/>     by Menzies Campbell<br \/>     25 July 2010<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"> But slowly and with only occasional fanfare the  whole sad, sorry story is being systematically laid out in evidence  before the Chilcot inquiry. Chilcot has not been about surprises but  rather about confirmation, less about revelation and more about  corroboration of what we thought we knew.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"font-null\">Sir  John Chilcot has made it clear that his committee is not a court of law  and that no findings of legality will be made but just by exposing to  public scrutiny the process by which legal advice was tendered and  disregarded, he has provided <strong><font color=\"#200020\">more than enough evidence in support of the  proposition that military action against Iraq was illegal<\/font><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">This was the central plank of the Liberal Democrat  case against war as Nick Clegg reminded the House of Commons on  Wednesday. In the aftermath, the attention was upon whether he made that  statement as an individual or as a member of the Government. Much more  telling was the lack of reaction of the Labour benches in the Commons,  including the candidates for leadership, not one of whom will now  endorse the decision to go to war in March 2003 which they then  supported. Every one a denier, a Simon Peter.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"font-null\">The  illegality was then and is today easily stated. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Article 2 [4] of the  United Nations Charter prohibits regime change<\/font><\/strong>. It is hardly surprising  that a treaty formed immediately after the Second World War should do so  since the Axis powers ignored the sovereignty, territorial integrity  and political independence of those whom they sought to annex or  conquer &ndash; just as the action against Iraq did&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<table width=\"95%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong>UN Charter<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"justify\"><strong>Article 2:&nbsp; <\/strong>The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles&#8230;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"justify\">\n<ul><strong>4<\/strong>. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the         threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political         independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the         Purposes of the United Nations&#8230;<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p align=\"justify\">That&#8217;s similar to my take on the Chilcot Inquiry. In the UK, the Sir John Chilcot and his panel have been criticized for not asking hard enough questions. My sense of things is that they don&#8217;t need to &#8211; they&#8217;re doing just fine. The simple facts are coming out and confirming our hard-won speculations with every witness. The Iraq Invasion was illegal &#8211; it&#8217;s that simple. The British at least struggled with legality. We didn&#8217;t really seem to give it a great deal of thought. In fact, our policy was, if anything, anti-UN [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/07\/25\/cheneys-war-on-the-un\">Cheney&rsquo;s <em>Kampf<\/em> and the war on the UN&hellip;<\/a><\/strong>]. As much as I came to detest the Bush Administration, it&#8217;s painful for me to hear what the witnesses have to say about our government&#8217;s behavior [it&#8217;s embarrassing].<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">David Corn and Michael Isikoff&nbsp; coauthored a book in 2006 they entitled <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Hubris<\/font><\/strong> about our invasion of Iraq. It was a perfect name:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong>hubris<\/strong> \u00cb\u02c6hju\u00cb\u0090br\u00c9\u00aas<br \/>   <em>noun<\/em><br \/>   1. pride or arrogance<br \/>    2. [in Greek tragedy] an excess of ambition, pride, etc, ultimately causing the transgressor&#8217;s ruin<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">But we were more than just arrogant. We were deceitful. We were contemptuous. So tomorrow&nbsp; morning at 9:00 AM EST, we get to hear from the first foreign national witness, <strong>Dr. Hans Blix<\/strong>, the head of the UN Inspection Team. He&#8217;s said what he thinks over and over since the invasion started. While I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll wince during his testimony, I hope he is as indicting of the Bush Administration as he has been in the past. We went over to the dark side, sure enough, and the UK&nbsp; either joined with or were pulled into our folly. It can&#8217;t be said too many times. And as for the UK and the UK\/US alliance:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Nor are domestic matters only affected. The debate  in recent years about our relationship with the US, sharply focused by  David Cameron&#8217;s visit last week, is framed not only by the changed  priorities of the Obama administration but also by British reticence to  be so close to our principal ally. Iraq casts a long shadow.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"font-null\">In <em>The Independent on Sunday<\/em>  on 16 February 2003, the day after a million people marched through  London, I wrote &quot;.<em>.. most of those who were marching almost certainly  understand the deception and ambition of Saddam. What they don&#8217;t accept  is that military action is justified. They are not persuaded that  containment and deterrence need to be abandoned. They do not accept that  all diplomatic and political alternatives have been exhausted to the  point that military action as a last resort is legitimate. They fear the  consequences of war in the Middle East and they want justice and a  homeland for the Palestinians. In short, public opinion in this country  has arrived at a credible foreign policy. This is not anti-Americanism  but a lack of confidence in the Bush administration &ndash; and a fear that  the United Kingdom might end up acting like the 51st state of the  union.<\/em>&quot; <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">The public got it right. It is a great pity the politicians got it wrong.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"520\" height=\"250\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/ukmarch.gif\" \/>&nbsp;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Iraq was always wrong. Now we have proof The Chilcot inquiry confirms what most suspected &ndash; the reasons for war were bogus. In future, such decisions must be transparent The Independent UK by Menzies Campbell 25 July 2010 But slowly and with only occasional fanfare the whole sad, sorry story is being systematically laid out [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4259","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4259","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4259"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4259\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4259"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4259"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4259"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}