{"id":4557,"date":"2010-12-16T11:33:50","date_gmt":"2010-12-16T16:33:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=4557"},"modified":"2010-12-16T14:21:03","modified_gmt":"2010-12-16T19:21:03","slug":"proof-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2010\/12\/16\/proof-3\/","title":{"rendered":"proof&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div align=\"justify\">I usually don&#8217;t cogitate much, I just write and move on. But this time I did cogitate, even sent off a trial balloon along the way. I&#8217;ve got a conflict of interest in the mix. It&#8217;s not the usual kind &#8211; democrat writing about republicans or liberal-ish guy writing about conservatives. This one effected my life, so my opinion can&#8217;t be anything but colored. That&#8217;s actually the whole problem with conflicts of interest. If you&#8217;ve got a horse in the race, you start with a conclusion and work your way back through the logic rather than the other way around.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font>I hold             a resentment for the invasion of Psychiatry by             the Psychopharmacologists. I believe they belong, but when they came in the 1980&#8217;s, it was to the exclusion of everyone else. That&#8217;s not even true, it was more like &quot;get on the bus or hit the road.&quot; Over the years, I&#8217;d largely accepted their             need to dominate the field for a time as a reality. I assumed it was             a paradigm having a heyday that would find its place in time. But I&#8217;ve been increasingly aware that some of it             was an invasion financed by the pharmaceutical industry who             were essentially trying to &quot;buy&quot; Psychiatry &#8211; and that parts of it have been an inside job. That&#8217;s infuriating to me. <\/font>          <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font>My topic has             to do with something specific. Drs. Nemeroff and Schatzberg             have mounted a vigorous legal campaign against the charge in             the recent <strong><font><u><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pogo.org\/pogo-files\/letters\/public-health\/ph-iis-20101129.html\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">POGO Letter                         to NIH on Ghostwriting Academics<\/font><\/strong><\/a><\/u><\/font><\/strong>.             They claim that the evidence that they lent their names to a             ghost-written textbook is invalid because the evidence is             circumstantial and doesn&#8217;t <strong><font color=\"#200020\">prove<\/font><\/strong>             the charge beyond any reasonable doubt &#8211; a legal standard.             I&#8217;ve figured out why that defense makes me so angry.             That&#8217;s what this post is about.<\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font>If you search the             NIH repository of scientific article abstracts [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>PubMed<\/strong><\/a>]             for <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Nemeroff CB<\/font><\/strong>, you             find a number of entries &#8211; six hundred and twenty eight! Is             that possible? Apparently. Some are &quot;review&quot; articles that             mostly say the same things as the last review article.             That&#8217;s pretty common in science where the length of one&#8217;s CV             is not only downright Freudian, it is a big plus in getting             jobs and grants. I&#8217;ve reproduced one such abstract and             referenced three other clones.<br \/>                <\/font> <\/div>\n<blockquote><p><font><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/16870212\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">The burden of severe depression:<\/font><\/strong><\/a><br \/>                  <strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/16870212\"><font color=\"#200020\">a review of diagnostic challenges and                   treatment alternatives<\/font><\/a><\/strong><br \/>                  J Psychiatr Res. 2007 Apr-Jun;41(3-4):189-206. Epub 2006 Jul             25.<br \/>                  by Nemeroff CB.<br \/>                  Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences<br \/>                  Emory University School of Medicine<br \/>                  <u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">ABSTRACT<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/font> <font><br \/>                  <\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font><sup>Among the factors making recognition of severe               depression problematic for clinicians are the               heterogeneous nature of the condition, lack of               standardized definitions, and concomitant comorbidities               that confound differential diagnosis of symptoms. The               spectrum of severity in depressive disorders is               extraordinarily broad, and severity assessment is               comprised of several metrics including symptom intensity,               diagnostic subtypes, suicidality risk, and hospitalization               status. The overall diagnosis is achieved through               consideration of symptom types and severities together               with the degree of functional impairment as assessed by               the psychiatric interview. <strong><font color=\"#990000\">It is                   likely that no single fundamental neurobiological                   defect underlies severe depression.<\/font><\/strong> The               chronicity and heterogeneity of this disorder lead to               frequent clinic visits and a longer course of treatment;               therefore, successful approaches may require an arsenal of               treatments with numerous mechanisms of action. The               categories of drugs used to treat severe depression are               detailed herein, as are several non-pharmacologic options               including a number of experimental treatments.               Pharmacotherapies include tricyclic antidepressants,               selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, atypical               antidepressants such as serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake               inhibitors and monoamine oxidase inhibitors, and               combination and augmentation therapies. Drugs within each               class are not equivalent, and efficacy may vary with               symptom severity. Patient adherence makes tolerability               another critical consideration in antidepressant choice. <strong><font color=\"#990000\">The role of non-pharmacological                   treatments such as electroconvulsive therapy, vagus                   nerve stimulation, transcranial magnetic stimulation,                   and deep brain stimulation remain active avenues of                   investigation. <\/font><\/strong>Improved knowledge and               treatment approaches for severe depression are necessary               to facilitate remission, the ideal treatment goal.<\/sup><\/font><\/div>\n<ul>\n<li><font><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/19501541\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">Emerging                       targets for antidepressant therapies&#8230;<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/font><\/li>\n<li><font><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/18980729\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">Novel targets                       for antidepressant therapies&#8230;<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/font><\/li>\n<li><font><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/16490412\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">Advances in                       the treatment of depression&#8230;<\/font><\/a><\/strong><\/font>               <font><br \/>                    <\/font> <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><font>He starts by             creating something of a straw man in my opinion. He remarks             that Depression is a widely variant thing. I would argue             that it&#8217;s something of a reach to even call it a &quot;thing.&quot;             It&#8217;s a reported<\/font><font> subjective<\/font><font> symptom, or a symptom complex, or a syndrome,             or a mood. For a sentence or so, he seems to be going down             my road, but then he says, &quot;<strong><font color=\"#990000\">It is                 likely that no single fundamental neurobiological defect                 underlies severe depression.<\/font><\/strong>&quot; There is, in             truth, no solid scientific <strong><font color=\"#200020\">proof<\/font><\/strong>             that a &quot;<strong><font color=\"#990000\">fundamental neurobiological                 defect<\/font><\/strong>&quot; underlies <u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">any<\/font><\/strong><\/u> &quot;<strong><font color=\"#990000\">severe depression<\/font><\/strong>.&quot; We all             think it&#8217;s likely, including me. A lot of depressed people respond to             medicine or other biological interventions. And there are lots             of suggestive findings. But there&#8217;s nothing that remotely             achieves the level of <strong><font color=\"#200020\">proof<\/font><\/strong> like <em><strong><font color=\"#300030\">the single                   stranded RNA morbillivirus causes Measles<\/font><\/strong><\/em>             or <em><strong><font color=\"#300030\">earthquakes are caused by                   the movement of the tectonic plates<\/font><\/strong><\/em>.             That some depression has to do with neurobiology is a widely             accepted <em>hypothesis<\/em>, maybe even reaching the level             of <em>theory<\/em>, even a <em>truth-in-training<\/em>, but there&#8217;s no scientific level <em>proof<\/em>.             His unstated hypothesis is that there are many &quot;<\/font><font><strong><font color=\"#990000\">fundamental                 neurobiological defect<\/font><\/strong><\/font><font>&quot;s, but he leaves no space for non-neurobiological mechanisms.<\/font><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font>Dr. Nemeroff is             famous for talking about speculations, hypotheses, theories             as if they are operating at a higher order of truth than             even a lot of his colleagues. It&#8217;s a virtual reality where             human depression already <u>is<\/u> a biological entity awaiting             something like NASA, the Manhattan Project, or a Crick and             Watson to crack the code. He leaves no room for grief,             personality disorder, neurotic conflict,&nbsp; tangled past,             tragic events, disordered life &#8211; things I saw frequently in my practice. And             while I&#8217;ll be glad when someone finally isolates the group of             depressed people that do have a proven <em>neurobiological               defect<\/em> that responds to adjusting their specific <em>chemical               imbalance<\/em>, that day has yet to arrive. But that&#8217;s not             my point, not what has me so ticked about Drs. Nemeroff and             Schatzberg becoming legalistic in response to that POGO             article. It&#8217;s that the circumstantial evidence that they             allowed their textbook to be written by a pharmaceutical             company&#8217;s contracted ghost-writer is a hell of a lot more             solid than the kind of evidence Dr. Nemeroff regularly gives             in his semi-scientific review articles under the banner of             &quot;evidence based&quot; medicine. <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font>In the letter from             his lawyer, Nemeroff <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pogoarchives.org\/m\/ph\/pogo-reply-dr-nih-attach-a-20101208.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">claims<\/a><\/strong> that POGO Investigator             Paul Thacker&#8217;s real motive in the charge is some kind of             chronic criticism dating from Thacker&#8217;s days with Senator             Grassley &#8211; a personal motive. Yet in that abstract above,             Nemeroff has an undeclared personal interest in many of the             treatments he mentions &#8211; and a direct financial stake in             some. By the time this review was written, he&#8217;d already             given up a prized editorship for not declaring his conflicts             of interest, and here he&#8217;s doing it again. The same is             true with the book in question. It was financed, purchased,             and distributed by a pharmaceutical company Nemeroff is             associated with and well paid by. The book presents that             company&#8217;s drug in a stellar light compared to its actual             track record. He was in contact with a ghost-writing firm             known to be hired by that same company, and a proposal was             made for them to write the book. That pharmaceutical company             had a program to get articles published named &quot;CASPPER&quot;             after the cartoon figure of a &quot;friendly <u>ghost<\/u>.&quot; But             POGO doesn&#8217;t have a surveillance video of the people at STI             writing the book or a direct contract for ghost-writing, so Nemeroff and Shatzberg claim the allegations are unfounded.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"> <font>So that&#8217;s my             complaint. If Nemeroff is going to be remarkably loose with truth,             proof, and motive in his own writing, he&#8217;s in no position to             say &quot;prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt.&quot; Medical ethics             operates at the level of &quot;<strong><font color=\"#300030\">give no appearance of<\/font><\/strong>&quot; rather than             fingerprints and DNA. He&#8217;s flunked &quot;<\/font><font><strong><font color=\"#300030\">give no appearance of<\/font><\/strong><\/font><font>&quot;             in spades &#8211; repeatedly. He&#8217;s more in the realm of &quot;<\/font><font><strong><font color=\"#300030\">quacks like a duck.&quot; <\/font><\/strong><\/font><font>What he&#8217;s inviting is for someone to rise to the challenge and do exactly             that &#8211; prove the case[s] against him legally.<\/font><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Back to my conflict of interest. In my first career as an Internist, the &quot;diseases&quot; were nouns &#8211; biological entities. A lot were chronic, untreatable.&nbsp; And I got interested in how people dealt with that. I was also astounded by the number of people who showed up with physical symptoms turned out to not have physical &quot;diseases&quot; but rather problems more located in their lives,&nbsp; or in their minds. So I became a mind doctor instead. But I try to be clear about &quot;mind&quot; versus &quot;brain&quot; in thinking about Psychiatry. The mind\/brain debates will go on until the end of time and I sort of enjoy them. Trying to treat a &quot;brain&quot; problem with &quot;mind&quot; techniques is obviously very unrewarding work, and vice versa. It&#8217;s not that debate that fuels my problem with Dr. Nemeroff and many of his colleagues. It&#8217;s two other things. First, he assumes &quot;brain&quot; without enough evidence. It&#8217;s a categorical error many &quot;mind doctors&quot; have also made. That&#8217;s his prerogative. But the second thing is the issue at hand. His enthusiasm for drug treatment is beyond suspect because of his intense ties with the Pharmaceutical industry &#8211; personal financial ties. His excuse that those ties don&#8217;t influence his science is indefensible &#8211; in fact demonstrably wrong. Nemeroff&#8217;s righteous indignation and legalistic threats ring hollow in the face of the evidence, and he would do himself and the rest of us a favor by developing some uncharacteristic humility. As far as he and his coauthor are concerned, the pendulum has already swung, not from brain to mind, but into the domain of a resurgent medical ethic and a more rigorous science&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I usually don&#8217;t cogitate much, I just write and move on. But this time I did cogitate, even sent off a trial balloon along the way. I&#8217;ve got a conflict of interest in the mix. It&#8217;s not the usual kind &#8211; democrat writing about republicans or liberal-ish guy writing about conservatives. 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