{"id":46700,"date":"2014-05-29T10:04:50","date_gmt":"2014-05-29T14:04:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=46700"},"modified":"2014-05-29T14:37:51","modified_gmt":"2014-05-29T18:37:51","slug":"the-right-thing-to-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/05\/29\/the-right-thing-to-do\/","title":{"rendered":"the right thing to do&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">There&#8217;s a discussion going on in the comments of <a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/fucked\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. David Healy&#8217;s blog<\/a> about the goings on with the EMA U-Turn on data transparency [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/05\/25\/a-decision-to-reconsider\/\" target=\"_blank\">a decision to reconsider&hellip;<\/a>] between good guys who have their differences &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/fucked\/#comment-105894\" target=\"_blank\">Ben Goldacre<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/fucked\/#comment-105968\" target=\"_blank\">David Healy<\/a>. It&#8217;s around the issue of the place of the Pharmaceutical industry in the negotiations about data transparency and how we&#8217;re to proceed. I realized, as I was adding <a href=\"http:\/\/davidhealy.org\/fucked\/#comment-106013\" target=\"_blank\">my two cents<\/a>, that I am surprisingly unconflicted on that point. I wish the good guys could get along, of course, but as to the place of PHARMA in data transparency, I don&#8217;t think they deserve any place at all. If fact, I don&#8217;t think they ever belonged in this issue in the first place. The pharmaceutical Industry arose from the patent medicine companies which literally created the advertising industry. They were dragged into legitimacy by increasing government regulation, but they never lost the morality of their roots. And their behavior in the era of clinical trials has been totally abysmal &#8211; riding the fine line between criminal and legitimate business and playing havoc with the practice of medicine. This is what I said in my comment:<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">\n<blockquote>\n<div>&#8230; I  can see no reason for industry to have a seat at the table in the  negotiations about data transparency at all. The misuse of their current  ownership of the data, the record of the level of corruption in  reporting, the number of negative studies with-held, the soft-pedaling  of adverse effects, all point to what happens when they are allowed to  control the data. The only pertinent issues are the true efficacy of the  drugs and an accurate reporting of the adverse effects. The economic  health of the current pharmaceutical industry is, in my mind, an  immaterial point, as is whether they join AllTrials or not. If the  standards required to guarantee the integrity of our pharmacopeia are  prohibitive to our current system, then our system needs to change &ndash; not  our standards. So as to the argument in the comments in this post  above, I have nothing but respect for all parties represented and all of  their efforts. But when it comes to the involvement of industry in  deciding where we&rsquo;re headed on this issue, I agree with BMJ editor Dr.  Fiona Godlee who said that they have an &ldquo;irreducible conflict.&rdquo; In my  mind, their track record is ample proof that they aren&rsquo;t responsible  players and should be viewed with the highest index of suspicion they&rsquo;ve  earned. This is closer to a war than a negotiation. The task of  evaluating the efficacy and safety of medications is an essential  obligation of the medical scientific community to our patients &ndash; a  bottom line. It&rsquo;s irrational to move that line because of the economic  needs of any commercial sector. If that impedes research into new  treatments, that simply means we have to rethink how we do medical  research.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m no socialist, but if we have to socialize drug research, that&#8217;s fine with me. If we want to keep our current system and help industry along, we need to radically change how we do things and help them some way other than allowing them to have a say in the risk\/benefit ratios we live with every time we prescribe. It&#8217;s hard enough in the best of circumstances, and the current conditions are anything but close to that standard. But continuing to allow them the opportunity to distort medical science or use the exaggerated advertising techniques [bending the truth] that are used to sell home washday supplies is just unacceptable. <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">People in the know [and I consider both Goldacre and Healy to be such people] have a variety of differences on how to proceed now that it&#8217;s very clear that we can&#8217;t even consider the possibility that PHARMA will be self regulating. I defer to their judgement on how to resolve their differences [so long as PHARMA has no seat at the table]. But quite honestly, if PHARMA were out of the way, I doubt that there would be any differences to resolve. I expect we&#8217;d all be out trying to practice decent medicine instead of fighting about drug marketing and deceitful science. As a doctor, I&#8217;d be willing to just live with the drugs I can trust right now until this all gets ironed out. We&#8217;ve been blackmailed and compromised long enough.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">PHARMA betrayed our trust &#8211; patients and doctors. It&#8217;s just that simple. I have no clue how to get them out of the decision-making process, but I feel comfortable with saying that&#8217;s the right thing to do. And as for complicit doctors, send them to time-out too. If that&#8217;s a simplistic and naive attitude, I&#8217;m going to go out and buy me a <em>simplistic-and-naive<\/em> tee shirt and wear it proudly&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a discussion going on in the comments of Dr. David Healy&#8217;s blog about the goings on with the EMA U-Turn on data transparency [a decision to reconsider&hellip;] between good guys who have their differences &#8211; Ben Goldacre and David Healy. It&#8217;s around the issue of the place of the Pharmaceutical industry in the negotiations [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46700","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46700","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=46700"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46700\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":46716,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46700\/revisions\/46716"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=46700"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=46700"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=46700"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}