{"id":47731,"date":"2014-07-02T20:30:29","date_gmt":"2014-07-03T00:30:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=47731"},"modified":"2014-07-02T20:37:06","modified_gmt":"2014-07-03T00:37:06","slug":"wisdom-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/02\/wisdom-here\/","title":{"rendered":"wisdom here&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">Before now, J&amp;J et al&#8217;s TMAP scheme to sell Atypical Antipsychotics to our government programs held the lead in pharmaceutical greed. But they only replaced a &quot;just as good&quot; generic with expensive<em> in patent<\/em> drugs. Roche jumped way out front with <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong>, a drug essentially inert as a life-saver sold to governments by the barge load to save us from a flu epidemic. The story of the Cochrane quest to bring this drug&#8217;s worth to light is one of the century&#8217;s better scientific achievements [as well as a passable good sleuthing story]. So Roche&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545\/rr\/703733\">rapid response<\/a> to the BMJ is more than just <em>a day late and a dollar short<\/em>:      <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/pharmalot\/2014\/07\/01\/roche-strikes-back-at-study-that-criticized-tamiflu-stockpiling\/\" target=\"_blank\">Roche Strikes Back at Study That Criticized Tamiflu Stockpiling <\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#004400\">Pharmalot WSJ<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\">By Ed Silverman<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">July 1, 2014<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Three months after a study concluded the widely used <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong>  treatment was not proven to reduce the spread of the flu or its  complications, Roche has struck back by calling the analysis &ldquo;seriously  flawed&rdquo; and warns the conclusions could lead to public health risks by  confusing patients and physicians. In <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545\/rapid-responses\" target=\"_blank\">a letter<\/a>  to the British Medical Journal, which published the study, the drug  maker claims the authors made &ldquo;basic errors&rdquo; in assessing effectiveness  data, &ldquo;over-interpreted&rdquo; the &ldquo;limited&rdquo; safety data that was evaluated  and &ldquo;wholly ignored&rdquo; other types of data in reaching their conclusion.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The study authors &ldquo;have drawn many conclusions that would not be  supported by a methodologically robust and comprehensive analysis of all  relevant [<strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong>] data,&rdquo; Roche scientists wrote. &ldquo;Equally important,  they have not exhibited the diligence necessary when working with large  clinical trial datasets and extensive regulatory documents.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The missive was made in response to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545?tab=responses\" target=\"_blank\">a study<\/a>  by the Cochrane Collaboration, a non-profit, global network of health  care academics. They concluded that <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> was no more effective than  aspirin, and one of its authors said governments that stockpiled the  drug had thrown money &ldquo;down the drain.&rdquo; The study, however, did not  question the ability of <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> to treat flu symptoms.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">One of the Cochrane researchers wrote us that the authors stand by  their conclusions. &ldquo;Their response was disappointing window dressing  designed for those who do not know the story,&rdquo; Tom Jefferson, a study  co-author, wrote us. He adds that a complete rebuttal will soon be  provided in BMJ.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> was approved by the FDA in 1999 and became a big seller  several years ago as governments moved to stockpile the treatment in the  wake of the H1N1 swine flu pandemic. This prompted the Cochrane  researchers to assess the effectiveness. They analyzed results from 46  of 107 trials pertaining to both <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> and <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Relenza<\/font><\/strong><strong><font color=\"#200020\">&reg;<\/font><\/strong>, a less widely used  flu drug sold by GlaxoSmithKline.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But their study was released only after they battled, sometimes  publicly, with Roche over access to Tamiflu data, because most of the  trial information was unpublished. The episode, which played out in the  pages of BMJ as the researchers often chronicled their efforts to  convince Roche to release data, became a linchpin in the wider debate  over access to clinical trial data harbored by drug makers.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">As a result, the European Parliament recently passed a law requiring  drug makers to publish all clinical trials related to a drug, but only  those approved since January 2014. Both Roche and Glaxo now say they are  committed to publishing all clinical study reports on all their drugs,  although some Cochrane researchers have also squabbled with Glaxo about  data for its Paxil antidepressant.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>If you don&#8217;t know the whole story, here are a couple of <em>catch-me-ups&#8230;<\/em>      <\/div>\n<ul>\n<li><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/339\/bmj.b5164\">The battle over Tamiflu<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/business\/2014\/apr\/10\/tamiflu-saga-drug-trials-big-pharma\">What the Tamiflu saga tells us about drug trials and big pharma<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/339\/bmj.b5387\">Complications: tracking down the data on oseltamivir<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>&#8230;and a reference to the actual data [if you&#8217;ve got an extra decade with nothing to do]:      <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545\/rr\/694739\" target=\"_blank\">Re: Oseltamivir for influenza in adults and children: systematic review of clinical study reports and summary of regulatory comments<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#0000ff\">BMJ: Rapid Response<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\">by Carl Heneghan, Tom Jefferson, and Peter Doshi<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">6 April 2014<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">With the publication of our systematic reviews on oseltamivir and zanamivir for influenza in adults and children, we are making all 107 full clinical study reports publicly available. Despite the worldwide stockpiling of antivirals, these reports have never been reviewed by the World Health Organization, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] and its European counterpart, the ECDC.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">It took us four years to obtain the full set of reports. The story relating to the acquisition has been documented at the BMJ&#8217;s open data campaign [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/tamiflu\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/tamiflu<\/a>].  If you disagree with our findings, or if you want to carry out your own analysis or just want to see what around 150,000 pages of data look like, they are one click away [<a href=\"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.5061\/dryad.77471\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.5061\/dryad.77471<\/a>].<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">This story has already become a legend in the saga of our pharmaceutical industry&#8217;s race to profit with new medications. To connect this story to my more usual topics on this blog, there&#8217;s little doubt in my mind that the SSRI drugs have demonstrable antidepressant properties, or at least some effect on brain function that shows up in our subjective measures of depression. At issue is the clinical relevance of those effects when measured against adverse effects from the medications. And that&#8217;s true of most medications &#8211;<em> desirable effect<\/em>,<em> strength of effect<\/em>,<em> adverse effect<\/em>,<em> consequences of adverse effect<\/em>,<em> <\/em>all dancing around in many of the treatment decisions a sick person makes. I have little doubt that <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> [Oseltamivir] has a viracidal effect on the influenza virus at some early point in the virus&#8217; cycle. But the nature of viral illness is such that for the respiratory viruses, the damage is done very quickly. Many of the symptoms of the common cold, for example, are from the body&#8217;s response to the viral assault <em>after the fact, when the virus is long gone<\/em>. There are a couple of important comments in the BMJ Rapid Response from Public Health physicians that put the medical side of this story into better perspective:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>         <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545\/rr\/695073\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>20 April 2014<\/strong><\/a>       <\/div>\n<div>         Peter M English      <\/div>\n<div>         Public Health Physician      <\/div>\n<p>The comments colleagues and I made previously still stand: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/339\/bmj.b2728\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/339\/bmj.b2728<\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Early in the &quot;containment phase&quot; of the pandemic the health secretary  promised that everybody with flu-like symptoms would be given  antivirals. The effect of this was that we were obliged to honour this promise.  There were not the resources to do this in a timely fashion: most  people, while I was involved, were delivered the antivirals a week after  the onset of symptoms. We were unable to prioritise high-risk patients.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">The government has claimed that the &quot;containment phase&quot; was  effective; that the reduction in viral shedding that may plausibly have  been a consequence of antiviral treatment slowed the spread of the  pandemic. There is no reason to believe that antivirals given more than 48  hours after the onset of symptoms had any other benefit; although  respiratory physicians tell me they believe it may have had some benefit  in the most seriously ill patients.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/348\/bmj.g2545\/rr\/694663\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>16 April 2014<\/strong><\/a><\/div>\n<div>Patrick J Saunders<\/div>\n<div>Professor of Public Health<\/div>\n<div>John Middleton<\/div>\n<div>University of Staffordshire <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">&#8230; We remain concerned however, that the insights of service providers  on the ground during the pandemic have not been given the same level of  public consideration. It is well documented that even drugs which may be  effective in clinical trials can be inefficient, or fail to deliver the  patient benefit predicted by trial results, when subject to limitations  of general service use. <strong><font color=\"#200020\">The lessons from service insights in the  pandemic are:  the wanton abandonment of first principles such as  isolation, basic control of infection measures and clinical assessment  in favour of the stubborn insistence on managing &lsquo;England as a single  epidemiological unit&rsquo;; and the irrational maintenance of the  &lsquo;containment&rsquo; phase which led directly to perverse and damaging  interventions and over-reliance on antivirals in mass prophylaxis  exercises particularly in schools. Anti-viral collection centres became  loci for the spread of infection as thousands of symptomatic and  sub-clinical cases [there is good evidence that flu can be spread by  asymptomatic patients] and unaffected contacts convened for a  wonder drug with serious potential side effects, and which would now  appear to be no more effective in pandemic management than paracetamol<\/font><\/strong> [US name: acetaminophen or Tylenol]. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">It would be irresponsible for these lessons not to underpin current  planning for pandemics and any subsequent responses. We believe there is  no place for antiviral distribution in a pandemic based on the current  evidence of the effectiveness of the drugs, their ineffectiveness for  mass prophylaxis and the likely spread of infection brought about by  bringing people to a centre for the drugs.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Great wisdom here. Even if <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong> <em>works<\/em>, there&#8217;s a small window and it&#8217;s likely passed by the time the drug comes along. So what about it stopping the spread [shedding]? Same problem &#8211; that window may have already passed. And what about having people all heading to some distribution center to get their <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Tamiflu&reg;<\/font><\/strong>? a place teeming with flu to waiting to be caught? Better to stay home, lock your door, and cross your fingers&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before now, J&amp;J et al&#8217;s TMAP scheme to sell Atypical Antipsychotics to our government programs held the lead in pharmaceutical greed. But they only replaced a &quot;just as good&quot; generic with expensive in patent drugs. Roche jumped way out front with Tamiflu&reg;, a drug essentially inert as a life-saver sold to governments by the barge [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47731","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47731","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=47731"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47731\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":47746,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47731\/revisions\/47746"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47731"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=47731"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=47731"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}