{"id":49800,"date":"2014-09-16T21:44:15","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T01:44:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=49800"},"modified":"2014-09-16T21:50:48","modified_gmt":"2014-09-17T01:50:48","slug":"at-the-wrong-meeting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/09\/16\/at-the-wrong-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"at the wrong meeting&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"520\" border=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/sbnec.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">In the Neuroanatomy I took in the 1960s, we learned the tracts of the peripheral nerves, the spinal cord, the cranial nerves, the motor\/sensory systems. It was like the wiring diagrams of my stero-building, ham radio days and I took to it like a duck to water. It was aimed at clinical neurology and grand fun. There was lots of other stuff in the brain with mysterious structure or not, and it got phrases like &quot;<em>thought to be involved with emotion<\/em>&quot; [but it was never on the tests]. Most of the neurophysiology and talk about neurotransmitters had to do with peripheral nerves and pharmacologic agents <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"172\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/neuron.gif\" \/>[like poisons or blood pressure pills]. If we talked about neurotransmitters [or much of anything else] in the grey-matter, I don&#8217;t recall it. That chatter came ten years later in psychiatry, where no drug lecture was complete without what I call the &quot;<em>NIH memorial nerve ending<\/em>&quot; slide, recycling neurotransmitters of various ilks [later, I had such a slide of my very own].<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">When psychiatry proper exited the mind business in 1980, it gradually became almost obligatory in conversation to insert the word s &quot;brain diseases&quot; in place of &quot;mental illness&quot; in many circles and there were many versions of Dr. Insel&#8217;s &quot;Psychiatry is Clinical Neuroscience&quot; along the way. The group I described as the <em>hanger-on-KOL-breakthrough-freaks<\/em> in the last post spent an enormous fraction of our research money not just on drug studies, but also on various forrays using the new tools of neuroscience [neuroimaging, genetics, etc] to the detriment of more perspecacious neuroscientists. They skipped steps under the banner of &quot;translational medicine&quot; in a <em>race to product<\/em>. A lot of the problem Neuroskeptic talks about in this piece came from certain academic psychiatrists who became self-proclaimed neuroscientists &#8211; naively chasing various pots of gold:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/neuroskeptic\/2014\/09\/16\/hard-think-brain\/\" target=\"_blank\">Why Is It So Hard To Think About The Brain?<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#100010\">Discover<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\">By Neuroskeptic<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">September 16, 2014<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em><font color=\"#700070\">This is the abstract for one of the two talks that I gave last week in B\u00fazios, Brazil for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sbnec.org.br\/site\/\">SBNeC<\/a> conference: &ldquo;Why Is It So Hard To Think About The Brain?&rdquo;&#8230;<\/font><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Today, we are thinking &ndash; and talking &ndash; about the brain more than ever  before. It is widely said that neuroscience has much to teach  psychiatry, cognitive science, economics, and others. Practical  applications of brain science are proposed in the fields of politics,  law enforcement and education. The brain is everywhere. This &ldquo;Neuro Turn&rdquo; has, however, not always been accompanied by a  critical attitude. We ought to be skeptical of any claims regarding the  brain because it remains a mystery &ndash; we fundamentally do not understand  how it works. Yet much neuro-discourse seems to make the assumption that  the brain is almost a solved problem already.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">For example, media stories about neuroscience commonly contain  simplistic misunderstandings &ndash; such as the tendency to over-interpret  neural activation patterns as practical guides to human behavior. For  instance, recently we have heard claims that because fMRI finds  differences in the brain activity of some violent offenders, this means  that their criminal tendencies are innate and unchangeable &ndash; with clear  implications for rehabilitation. Neuroscientists are well aware of the faults in lay discourse about  the brain &ndash; and are increasingly challenging them e.g. on social media.  Unfortunately, the same misunderstandings also exist within neuroscience  itself. For example, I argue, much of cognitive neuroscience is  actually based on [or, only makes sense given the assumption that] the  popular misunderstanding that brain activity has a psychological  &lsquo;meaning&rsquo;.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">In fact, we just do not know what a given difference in brain  activity means, in the vast majority of cases. Thus, many research  studies based on finding differences in fMRI activity maps across groups  or across conditions, are not really helping us to understand the brain  at all &ndash; but only providing us with a canvas to project our  misunderstandings onto it. Why do these errors arise? I&nbsp; see the origin of these  misunderstandings as being a fundamental difficulty that we have in  thinking about &ldquo;the brain&rdquo;. We are misled by an implicit mind-brain  dualism that leads us astray. The problem is not so much that is  difficult to find answers about the brain, but rather that it is easy to  ask the wrong questions.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">What can neuroscientists do? There are solutions. Neuroscience should  be based on clear, falsifiable hypotheses that seek to explain, rather  than merely describe, neural and behavioral phenomena. The process of  framing testable hypotheses helps us to escape from the  misunderstandings. Much of neuroscience already does this, but not  enough. As for the public and the media, it is important to remember that  misunderstandings of neuroscience can have serious consequences, both  directly and indirectly. Generally these errors consist in seeing brain  science as more certain than it is, and giving it more authority than it  should do in real life scenarios. This lends undeserved power and  influence to ideas [e.g. political ideas] that wouldn&rsquo;t otherwise seem  convincing. Public discourse moves this away from rationality towards  the appearance of rationality.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">In conclusion, both neuroscientists and the public are subject to the  same misunderstandings when trying to think about the brain.  Neuroscience can advance when it is based more on formal hypothesis  testing and less on intuition and interpretation. But the latter  approach is common. And in the public sphere it can be dangerous.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"90\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/neuroskeptic.gif\" \/>At this point, I could go off on a diatribe about the difference between the Dogmatists and the Skeptics in ancient Greece. In fact, maybe I&#8217;ll do just do that. I suppose if you have a favorite Greek philosopher, you can talk about him more than once. So I&#8217;ll borrow from a short former <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/04\/04\/my-old-greek\/\">accounting<\/a> for my <em>diatribe&middot;let<\/em>:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" vspace=\"4\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"0\" align=\"left\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/pyrrho.gif\" \/><em><strong>Pyrrho<\/strong> [&Pi;u&rho;&rho;&omega;&nu;, c. 360 BC&nbsp;&ndash; c. 270 BC]:<br \/>     Pyrrho was from Elis, a suburb of Athens. He started  life as a painter, but gravitated to Philosophy. He became one of the  Philosophers that traveled with Alexander the Great on his campaigns of  conquest and he was influenced by the Philosophers in the East that he  met on those travels. When he returned to Greece, the dominant school of  Philosophy was Dogmatism. We know a jaded version of Dogmatism, largely  from the excesses of the Catholic Church centuries later. At the time  of Pyrrho, Dogmatism was something&nbsp; lofty, like the &quot;search for absolute  truth.&quot; Pyrrho taught that there was no absolute truth, and his  teachings became known as Skepticism. What we know of Pyrrho outside  later writings about his philosophy are stories that we know aren&#8217;t  true. They&#8217;re the jokes the Dogmatists made about him &#8211; parodies of his  indecisiveness. They told the story that Pyrrho was walking down the  road and saw a man fall face down in the mud. While Pyrrho pondered, the  man died from asphyxiation. Or a story that his students followed him  everywhere to make sure that he decided to eat [those old Greeks weren&#8217;t  so great with jokes]. Since  there were no absolute truths, Pyrrho taught that we had to accept  relative truth, always maintaining a questioning attitude, vigilant for  things that might cause us to revise our former approximations. We might call  it healthy skepticism these days, and it&#8217;s the essence of the  scientific method.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">As I read through Neuroskeptic&#8217;s essay, I kept thinking that he was at the wrong meeting. I don&#8217;t know anything about Brazilian Neuroscience, but my guess is that his audience of neuroscientists was well schooled in the skepticism of the scientific method. Where this lecture should&#8217;ve been delivered was to the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">American Psychiatric Association<\/font><\/strong>. And while he was at it, a symposium for the grant reviewers at the N.I.M.H. would be in order. Acting under the guise of Translational Medicine, the NIMH has funded any number of beyond speculative forrays into the land of neuroscience &#8211; grants to prove acquired traumatic illness is genetic, $35 M to sequence antidepressants, finding biomarkers to predict who will respond Zoloft vs Wellbutrin, neuroimaging anything that moves. It&#8217;s our psychiatric KOLs who need to hear the pearls of wisdom from a real neuroscientist like Neuroskeptic:<\/div>\n<ul><span class=\"small\">             <\/p>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">We  ought to be skeptical of any claims  regarding the  brain because it  remains a mystery &ndash; we fundamentally do  not understand  how it works.<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span class=\"small\"><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">&#8230; <\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/span><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">media  stories about neuroscience commonly  contain  simplistic  misunderstandings &ndash; such as the tendency to  over-interpret  neural  activation patterns as practical guides to human  behavior.<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span class=\"small\"><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">&#8230; <\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/span><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">much  of cognitive neuroscience is  actually  based on [or, only makes sense  given the assumption that] the  popular  misunderstanding that brain  activity has a psychological  &lsquo;meaning&rsquo;.<\/font><\/strong><\/em> <\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">&#8230;  many research  studies based on finding differences in fMRI activity   maps across groups  or across conditions, are not really helping us to   understand the brain  at all &ndash; but only providing us with a canvas to   project our  misunderstandings onto it.<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em><strong><font color=\"#100010\">&#8230;  misunderstandings of neuroscience can have  serious consequences, both   directly and indirectly. Generally these  errors consist in seeing  brain  science as more certain than it is, and  giving it more authority  than it  should do in real life scenarios.<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<p> <\/span><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the Neuroanatomy I took in the 1960s, we learned the tracts of the peripheral nerves, the spinal cord, the cranial nerves, the motor\/sensory systems. It was like the wiring diagrams of my stero-building, ham radio days and I took to it like a duck to water. 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