{"id":58747,"date":"2015-08-03T13:14:46","date_gmt":"2015-08-03T17:14:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=58747"},"modified":"2015-08-03T13:38:21","modified_gmt":"2015-08-03T17:38:21","slug":"not-really-given-the-chance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/08\/03\/not-really-given-the-chance\/","title":{"rendered":"not really given the chance&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/doi\/abs\/10.1176\/appi.ajp.2015.15060744?journalCode=ajp\" target=\"_blank\">Clinical Trials for Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">by S. Charles Schulz M.D. and Donald W. Black, M.D.<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#004400\">American Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>. 2015 172[8]:793.<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#200020\"><strong>To the Editor<\/strong>:<\/font>  There are currently no standard treatments for borderline personality  disorder. Several psychotherapies have been developed, and a few are now  considered evidence-based. Medications have also been explored, yet  randomized controlled trials are few in number, leading to a lack of  consensus regarding the best approach&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">To address the potential benefit of quetiapine [approved  by the FDA for schizophrenia and bipolar disorder], we conducted a  double-blind, placebo-controlled study, which was investigator initiated  and sponsored by AstraZeneca. The results showed positive effects of  the lower dose tested [150 mg\/day], with more than half responding as  defined by a 50% decrease in symptom ratings.  There were fewer such effects at the higher dose, and there were more  side effects and patient attrition. The report was accompanied by an  editorial appropriately noting the strengths and limitations of the  study, including its 8-week duration for an illness that often lasts  many years.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#660033\">Two  subjects initially enrolled at the University of Minnesota site were  immediately dropped from the study when their misuse of the study  medication was discovered. The University Internal Review Board reviewed  what occurred and concluded that we had acted appropriately.  Nonetheless, a member of the Ethics Center alleged to the <em>New York Times<\/em>  that the investigators had acted irresponsibly. The newspaper reported  this allegation in a recent issue and did not include a statement to the  newspaper from the University of Minnesota that no investigator  misconduct had occurred.<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Many large clinical trials have had  issues with behavioral problems and protocol violations by some  subjects, and for these reasons all such studies have procedures to  dismiss subjects. Such problems are part of both clinical and research  care with seriously ill patients. Despite this subject misconduct, the  results of the study provide clinicians and patients with new  evidence-based guidance on dose, effectiveness, and side effects of  quetiapine in borderline personality disorder. The next step is to  examine the effect of quetiapine in borderline personality disorder  patients in combination with an evidence-based psychotherapy. Our  patients deserve no less than the continued investigation of our options  for their treatment.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Here&#8217;s a less sanitized version of the story:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/loathingbioethics.blogspot.com\/2015\/08\/seroquel-in-oatmeal-at-sex-offender.html\">Seroquel in the oatmeal at the sex offender facility: Schulz replies<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#990000\">Fear and Loathing in Bioethics<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\">by Carl Elliot <\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">August 1, 2015<\/div>\n<p>       <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">  If you recall, in April the&nbsp;<em>Times<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/04\/19\/business\/seroquel-xr-drug-trial-frayed-promise.html?_r=0\" target=\"_blank\">reported yet another mismanaged clinical trial<\/a>  in the U&#8217;s Department of Psychiatry. Two sex offenders were recruited  into a clinical trial of Seroquel for Borderline Personality Disorder,  despite the fact that they did not actually have the disorder. Then one  of them slipped his study medication into the oatmeal at the facility  where he was housed. According a report from Alpha House, the sex offender facility:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>Some residents noticed pink particles in the oatmeal. After eating  breakfast the residents and staff reported feeling sedated and some were  &quot;knocked out&rsquo; for the remainder of the day. Staff asked X if he had put  the study medication into the oatmeal and he denied it. After failing a  polygraph test X was re-imprisoned&#8230;<\/em><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>Under guidelines governing federally funded clinical trials, the men  would have been considered prisoners and their participation given  special scrutiny, several outside ethics experts said. Although the  trial was not federally funded, many universities follow similar rules  for research involving human subjects. [The university asserts the men  were not prisoners.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>Other concerns about the study were raised even before the oatmeal  drugging. The study&rsquo;s safety officer, Dr. Scott Crow, noted in a memo  that not a single patient had failed the screening process for  enrollment in the study, even though outside experts said it was  unlikely that everyone who applied would meet the criteria. Dr. Schulz  said the failures were not recorded because the patients were formally  screened only after undergoing initial telephone interviews that  eliminated unlikely candidates.<\/em><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>&ldquo;What a sloppy trial,&rdquo; said Nancy Dubler, a bioethicist who served  for years on the Institutional Review Board, or I.R.B., at Montefiore  Medical Center in the Bronx. She is an expert on the inclusion of  prisoners in clinical trials and said closer attention should have been  paid to the events at Alpha&#8230;<\/em><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">I felt kind of sad reading Dr. Schulz&#8217;s letter in the AJP. Whether or not the NYT published some statement from the University of Minnesota giving him a clean bill of health is such a non-issue after the years of the UMn saying everything is just fine. That&#8217;s the only kind of letter they write until getting hit in the head with a 2&#215;4.&nbsp; But the sad feeling was also about the <span class=\"st\">naivet\u00e9<\/span> of the letter and his  whole enterprise of serial drug studies in patients with the <font color=\"#200020\">Borderline Personality Disorder<\/font>. I usually shy away from talking about psychodynamic formulations here.  Such things are out of vogue, and have little to do with my usual topics  of the <font color=\"#200020\">Academic&middot;Industrial&middot;Complex<\/font> or <font color=\"#200020\">Data Transparency, <\/font>but this may be a time for an exception. <\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Borderline patients come in many sizes and shapes. They are united as a group by certain shared phenomena with varying intensity. They are intolerant of being alone. They tend to simplify other people [good\/bad] and any given person can jump from one to the other designation in a heartbeat. They are needy, but confused about what they need, so they end up coercing others into doing things that are ultimately to their own detriment. Rather than having periodic life crises, they often live crisis lives in a pattern where the solution to the last problem\/crisis sets the stage for the next problem\/crisis. The term &quot;borderline&quot; stuck because they confound every treatment. The basic difficulty is an infantile need for attachment combined with an equally infantile inability to maintain a consistent view of another. As I said in <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/07\/02\/an-anachronism\/\">an anachronism&hellip;<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/04\/19\/academic-industrial-complex-ii\/\"><em><font color=\"#200020\">Academic&middot;Industrial&middot;Complex II&hellip;<\/font><\/em><\/a>, the notion that any drug will have a lasting benefit is unlikely. They go through drugs just as they go through people [and therapists]. So the clinical trials are more for the sponsors than the afflicted. They are treatable with modified therapies &#8211; psychodynamic or behavioral [dialectic behavior therapy] &#8211; but in either case, it is &quot;heroic&quot; psychotherapy and success is hardly guaranteed. Antics like the ones reported here [the Seroquel in the oatmeal] or sexual acting out [polymorphous sexual perversion] are not uncommon. While I&#8217;ve focused here on the difficulty these patients pose for others, they live difficult and painful lives and successful treatment is well worth the effort if it can be mustered.    <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">So back to my response of sadness to the letter. I don&#8217;t get the sense that Dr. Schulz really understands the Borderline patients and where they hurt. He sure didn&#8217;t understand Katie Thomas&#8217; article in the NYT [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/04\/19\/business\/seroquel-xr-drug-trial-frayed-promise.html?_r=2\">A Drug Trial&rsquo;s Frayed Promise<\/a>], what Carl Elliot was getting at, and why some statement from UMn was immaterial. I had the same feeling when I read that oral history interview [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/collections.mnhs.org\/cms\/web5\/media.php?pdf=1&#038;irn=10291393\">Interview  with  S.  Charles  Schulz,  M.D.<\/a>]. He was troubled by Carl Elliot&#8217;s campaign about Dan Markingson, but seemed clueless about why Carl was so upset and persistent. The place where I felt it most strongly was in his response to a letter from Mary Weiss back in the day, worrying about her son &#8211; Dan Markingson&#8217;s psychotic state. Instead of going to see Dan to see what she was talking about, he conclaved with co-investigator Dr. Stephen Olson to frame a response letter saying that they were doing nothing wrong.  <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Patients with First Episode Schizophrenia or Borderline Personality Disorder are in intense emotional tangles. They aren&#8217;t orderly. They don&#8217;t fit into routines. They&#8217;re too busy inside their minds and need a lot of attending to. Even the &quot;sex offender&quot; who flavored the oatmeal with his Seroquel was probably actually &quot;Borderline&quot; and needed to be seen rather than just removed for <em>bad subject behavior<\/em>. Dan Markingson was definitely in need of being seen at the time his mother wrote her frantic plea, not dealt with by a falsely reassuring letter. Carl Elliot and Leigh Turner of the University&#8217;s Bioethics Department deserved to be seen and engaged rather than discounted from afar &#8211; treated as nuisances. Reading of Dr. Schulz&#8217;s plans to make the UMn a Research Center for Psychiatry when he came to Minnesota and his pride in building his program in the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/collections.mnhs.org\/cms\/web5\/media.php?pdf=1&#038;irn=10291393\">Interview  with  S.  Charles  Schulz,  M.D.<\/a> added to the sad feeling, because he didn&#8217;t seem to grasp that his remoteness, lack of active engagement, and defensiveness was much of the reason things finally went so badly for him, for Dan, for his program.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">But mostly, I felt sad for Dan and his Mom all over again. Success in a case like Dan&#8217;s is never assured, but most of us feel that he was not really given the chance to make it out of that dark and crazy place&#8230; <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Clinical Trials for Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder by S. Charles Schulz M.D. and Donald W. Black, M.D. American Journal of Psychiatry. 2015 172[8]:793. To the Editor: There are currently no standard treatments for borderline personality disorder. Several psychotherapies have been developed, and a few are now considered evidence-based. 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