{"id":60643,"date":"2015-10-15T10:26:38","date_gmt":"2015-10-15T14:26:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=60643"},"modified":"2015-10-15T14:22:31","modified_gmt":"2015-10-15T18:22:31","slug":"catch-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/10\/15\/catch-22\/","title":{"rendered":"catch 22&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Here&#8217;s a story that&#8217;s eerily close to a recent experience of my own:                   <\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thestar.com\/news\/canada\/2015\/10\/14\/health-canada-hands-over-documents-but-muzzles-doctor.html\" target=\"_blank\">Health Canada hands over documents but muzzles doctor<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Toronto doctor muzzled, not allowed to talk about morning sickness drug info<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Toronto Star<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\">By David Bruser and Jesse McLean<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">Oct 14 2015<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Dr. Navindra Persaud aims to publish a medical journal article  based on his findings on the drug Diclectin. However, under the terms of  the confidentiality agreement with Health Canada, Persaud said he can  share his findings but not the data underlying them. Four years after he first asked Health Canada  for all the information it had on a popular morning sickness drug,  Toronto doctor Nav Persaud finally has the documents. But he cannot tell his patients or any other Canadians what&rsquo;s in them.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Under the terms of a confidentiality agreement  he had to make with the federal regulator in order to receive the  35,000 pages, he can&rsquo;t even tell his wife. &ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s important information that could  change clinical practice, that could change the informed decisions that  pregnant women make about whether they want this medication,&rdquo; said  Persaud, who teaches at the University of Toronto and researches drug  safety at St. Michael&rsquo;s Hospital.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&ldquo;But because I have signed this confidentiality agreement, I can&rsquo;t talk to you about it.&rdquo; Persaud has previously raised concerns about  Diclectin&rsquo;s efficacy. This article is about transparency, not drug  safety. The maker of Diclectin, a commonly prescribed morning sickness  drug, says its product has been proven safe and effective.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The Star first reported on Persaud&rsquo;s  protracted battle with government secrecy in April. A pregnant patient  of Persaud&rsquo;s had questions about Diclectin. So in 2011, Persaud went to  Health Canada for all the records it had that could help him give an  informed response. He got a three-and-a-half-year runaround  before getting a 359-page document, 60 per cent of it completely  censored. Other pages had blacked-out sections under titles such as  &ldquo;Adverse Events.&rdquo; Canada&rsquo;s drug regulator had deemed those  details &ldquo;confidential business information&rdquo; under access to information  legislation, and was required to consult the drug&rsquo;s manufacturer,  Quebec-based Duchesnay, on what should be kept from the doctor.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So Persaud made his request again, this time  under the new legislation, Vanessa&rsquo;s Law. This 2014 law empowers the  health minister to disclose this kind of information to a doctor, in  some cases without consulting a drug company. In September, he finally received 35,000  pages, none of them blacked out, the disclosure made by Health Canada  for the &ldquo;exclusive use&rdquo; of Persaud&rsquo;s research about the drug. The release includes a nearly 9,200-page  report from a recent clinical trial sponsored by Duchesnay to assess,  among other things, the drug&rsquo;s efficacy &mdash; a measure of how well it  treats a condition.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t view it as business information  because it&rsquo;s related to the clinical effects of a medication, and I  think the women who would have participated in this trial thought they  were contributing to science, not to the business interests of one  company,&rdquo; Persaud said. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s exactly the sort of information that should be publicly available.&rdquo; Persaud co-authored an article published Monday in the <em>Canadian Medical Association Journal <\/em>that calls for North American regulators to make all clinical trial data publicly available.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"66\" height=\"18\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/snip.gif\" \/><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Persaud aims to publish a medical journal  article based on his findings. However, under the terms of the &ldquo;absurd&rdquo;  confidentiality agreement, Persaud said, he can share his findings but  not the data underlying them. Health Canada noted in a Sept. 16 letter to  Persaud, &ldquo;You should be aware that Health Canada will closely monitor  compliance with this Agreement and has recourse to legal action in the  event of a breach.&rdquo; Though he feels muzzled, Persaud commended the regulator for releasing the documents. &ldquo;In the past, information that was  confidential business information would not be disclosed at all,&rdquo; he  said. &ldquo;Health Canada has made [this recent] decision independently and  did not consult with the pharmaceutical company Duchesnay, and I think  that&rsquo;s the way that regulators should operate.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">After our rewrite of Study 329 [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/cgi\/doi\/10.1136\/bmj.h4320\" target=\"_blank\">Restoring   Study 329: efficacy and harms of paroxetine and                 imipramine in treatment of major depression in adolescence<\/a>] was accepted, there was much to do in a hurry. Dr. Healy was collecting the information for our web site [<a href=\"http:\/\/study329.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restoring Study 329<\/a>], and we were having a constant back and forth with the BMJ &#8211; formatting graphs and tables, smoothing things out from the inevitable flotsom and jetsom left behind when you have multiple revisions [six]. In the midst of all of that, I received two requests for our raw efficacy data to be posted on our web site. As you may recall, in May the BMJ announced that starting in July, any Clinical Trial they published would have to agree to make the raw data available on request [a policy I heavily support]:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/350\/bmj.h2373\" target=\"_blank\">The BMJ requires data sharing on request for all trials<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">by Elizabeth Loder and Trish&nbsp; Groves<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#0066ff\">British Medical Journal<\/font><\/strong>. 2015 350:h2373<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Heeding calls from the Institute of Medicine, WHO,  and the Nordic Trial Alliance, we are extending our policy. The   movement to make data from clinical trials widely accessible has   achieved enormous success, and it is now time for medical journals to   play their part. From 1 July <em>The BMJ<\/em> will extend its   requirements for data sharing to apply to all submitted clinical trials,   not just those that test drugs or devices. The data transparency  revolution is gathering pace.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/350\/bmj.h2373#ref-2\">2<\/a>   Last month, the World Health Organization [WHO] and the Nordic Trial   Alliance released important declarations about clinical trial   transparency.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">These  announcements come on the heels of the US  Institute of Medicine&rsquo;s [IOM]  report on sharing clinical trial data,  which called for a  transformation of existing scientific culture to one  where &ldquo;data sharing  is the expected norm.&rdquo;  The efforts of industry,  too, must be acknowledged, some of which  caught many people by  surprise. In particular, Medtronic&rsquo;s cooperation  with the Yale  University Open Data project and GlaxoSmithKline&rsquo;s  leadership on data  disclosure efforts stand out&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\"><strong><font color=\"#990000\">Thus, the <\/font><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Catch-22_%28logic%29\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#990000\">Catch-22<\/font><\/a><strong><font color=\"#990000\"> [impossible situation]. You can&#8217;t publish unless you make the data publicly available, but you can&#8217;t even see the data unless you agree to not make it publicly available.<\/font><\/strong> So there I sat:<\/div>\n<ul><span class=\"small\">                  <\/p>\n<li> agreeing with the BMJ&#8217;s move for Data Transparency<\/li>\n<li>an author on a paper advocating Data Transparency<\/li>\n<li>having spent countless hours working on a remote desktop that was really hard to work with [we called it <em><font color=\"#200020\">the periscope<\/font><\/em>]                  <\/li>\n<li>And my coauthors and the journal editors were wondering why I hadn&#8217;t posted the data! <\/li>\n<p>                  <\/span><\/ul>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\"><em><font color=\"#200020\">I couldn&#8217;t post the data because in order to see it, we signed an agreement with GSK that forbade us from taking the data out of the remote desktop or releasing it directly.<\/font><\/em> In our case, there was a fortuitous anomoly, a loophole or workaround. The efficacy data had been posted already by GSK [belatedly] [under court order] in 2012. It&#8217;s in graphics-based <strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">.pdf<\/font><\/em><\/strong>s and would have to be transcribed into some kind of tabular form to be analyzed [either by hand or with some super-duper OCR magic that I couldn&#8217;t bring off]. I&#8217;ve done some of it by hand and can attest to the fact that it&#8217;s a Herculean task. In fact, we were doing our paper from that data originally, but changed tactics when we realized that we needed the raw <strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">CRF<\/font><\/em><\/strong>s to analyze the harms. So we applied to GSK for access. I could at least post the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/en-gb\/media\/resource-centre\/paroxetine\/paroxetine-paediatric-and-adolescent-patients\/\">links to the public version<\/a> fulfilling BMJs requirements, though working with the data in this form is a real bear:    <\/p>\n<table width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">FILE<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">SIZE<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">CONTENTS<br \/>           <\/font><\/strong>     <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"3\">\n<hr size=\"1\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/389560\/depression_329.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Synopsis: acute<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [0.03Mb]<\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\">&#8230;                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/389563\/depression_329_cont.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Synopsis: continuation<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [0.03Mb]<\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\">&#8230;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/389566\/depression_329_full.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">CSR: acute<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [0.97Mb]<\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\">&#8230;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/389593\/depression_329_full_cont.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">CSR: continuation<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [0.56Mb]<\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\">&#8230;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/360485\/329-AppA.PDF\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix A<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [19Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Protocol<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/360476\/329-AppB.PDF\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix B<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [18Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Patient Data Listings of Demographic                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/360473\/329-AppC.PDF\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix C<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [19Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Patient Data Listings of Efficacy                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/360455\/329-AppD.PDF\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix D<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [8Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Patient Data Listings of Adverse Experiences                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/352320\/329-AppE.PDF\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix E<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [3.5Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Patient Data Listings of Vital Signs<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/361031\/329-AppF.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix F<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [23.5Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">Patient Data Listings of Laboratory Values                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/363497\/329-AppG.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix G<\/a><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [53Mb]<\/td>\n<td class=\"small\">CRF Tabulations by Patient <strong><font color=\"#200020\">[REDACTED]<\/font><\/strong>                <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" class=\"small\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gsk.com\/media\/352347\/329-AppH.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Appendix H<\/a><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"center\" class=\"small\"> [60Kb]<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" class=\"small\">CRFs for Patients with Adverse Experiences<br \/>             Leading to Withdrawal, Serious Adverse<br \/>            Experiences and Deaths <strong><font color=\"#200020\">[REDACTED]<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<div align=\"center\"><sup>[modified to fit the space]<\/sup><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">I don&#8217;t want to seem ungrateful. After all, we did get access in the end and that rarely happens. But the amount of effort it took to reanalyze the data in the format supplied was impressive and, in my opinion, unnecessary. There was nothing in that data that would breach <em><font color=\"#200020\">Subject Confidentiality<\/font><\/em> or in any way fit the criteria for <em><font color=\"#200020\">Commercially Confidential Information<\/font> [<font color=\"#200020\">CCI<\/font>]<\/em>. It&#8217;s just numbers. So neither argument really offers a reason for secrecy. <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">I can&#8217;t mount a formal argument that the difficulty using the system or the restrictions on publishing the data were deliberate attempts to interfere with our doing the analysis, though it certainly felt that way at times. Since the <em><font color=\"#200020\">Subject Confidentiality<\/font><\/em> and <em><font color=\"#200020\">Commercially Confidential Information<\/font><\/em> assertions seem spurious, I suspect that the motive was to maintain control. And <strong><font color=\"#990000\">as I&#8217;ve said repetitively, there&#8217;s no reason to hide the data except to have the option to distort the analysis without letting others do any checking. There are simply too many examples where corrupted analysis has been documented to justify continuing to see this Clinical Trial data as proprietary.<\/font><\/strong>    <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">So I have nothing but sympathy for Dr. Navindra Persaud.&nbsp; He&#8217;s playing against a stacked deck that makes reanalysis a heroic act rather than what it should be &#8211; a necessary piece of oversight. In his case, it directly goes against the intent of Canada&#8217;s <em><font color=\"#200020\">Vanessa&#8217;s Law<\/font><\/em> [see <a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2014\/06\/17\/doing-the-right-thing\/\">doing the right thing&hellip;<\/a>], and I hope he takes it to their Parliament for clarification.     <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">No matter how many times you read about the great progress in Data Transparency, don&#8217;t be fooled. Every bit of access has been extracted against a powerful and reluctant industry fighting tooth and toenail to hang on to something that wasn&#8217;t theirs in the first place&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a story that&#8217;s eerily close to a recent experience of my own: Health Canada hands over documents but muzzles doctor Toronto doctor muzzled, not allowed to talk about morning sickness drug info Toronto Star By David Bruser and Jesse McLean Oct 14 2015 Dr. Navindra Persaud aims to publish a medical journal article based [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-60643","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-opinion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60643","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=60643"}],"version-history":[{"count":38,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60643\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":60681,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60643\/revisions\/60681"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=60643"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=60643"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=60643"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}