{"id":61396,"date":"2015-11-13T11:45:13","date_gmt":"2015-11-13T16:45:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=61396"},"modified":"2015-11-13T11:45:13","modified_gmt":"2015-11-13T16:45:13","slug":"an-inconvenient-truth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/11\/13\/an-inconvenient-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"an inconvenient truth&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">While I was writing this earlier post [<\/font><\/em><\/strong><\/sup><sup><strong><em><font color=\"#200020\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/11\/10\/it-just-is-what-it-is\/\">it just is what it is&hellip;<\/a>] about a man who had had his Paxil dose inappropriately raised in response to withdrawal symptoms, I wondered why I was even writing it. Was I patting myself on the back for having developed a high level of suspicion about withdrawal symptoms? or about looking into over-medication? I thought about that recent book, &quot;Mistakes were made, but not by me&quot; that I recently ordered. Was I pointing out the mistakes of others but not looking in the mirror at my own? But later, a few more sensible things occurred to&nbsp; me. For one, I had seen the article below in the advanced publications in the AJP before going to work, and I wondered what it was going to conclude. My eyes had landed on some particular phrasings [in <\/font><font color=\"#990000\">red<\/font><font color=\"#200020\">]&#8230;<\/font><\/em><\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"big\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/doi\/abs\/10.1176\/appi.ajp.2015.15030331?journalCode=ajp\">Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis: Dose-Response Relationship of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors in Major Depressive Disorder<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"small\">by Ewgeni Jakubovski, M.A., Anjali L. Varigonda, M.D., Nicholas Freemantle, Ph.D., Matthew J. Taylor, Ph.D., Michael H. Bloch, M.D., M.S.<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\" class=\"middle\"><strong><font color=\"#004400\">American Journal of Psychiatry.<\/font><\/strong> Published online: November 10, 2015.<\/div>\n<p>            <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Objective<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: Previous studies suggested that the treatment response to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors [SSRIs] in major depressive disorder follows a flat response curve within the therapeutic dose range. The present study was designed to clarify the relationship between dosage and treatment response in major depressive disorder.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Method<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: The authors searched PubMed for randomized placebo-controlled trials examining the efficacy of SSRIs for treating adults with major depressive disorder. Trials were also required to assess improvement in depression severity at multiple time points. Additional data were collected on treatment response and all-cause and side effect-related discontinuation. All medication doses were transformed into imipramine-equivalent doses. The longitudinal data were analyzed with a mixed-regression model. Endpoint and tolerability analyses were analyzed using meta-regression and stratified subgroup analysis by predefined SSRI dose categories in order to assess the effect of SSRI dosing on the efficacy and tolerability of SSRIs for major depressive disorder.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Results<\/font><\/strong><\/u>: Forty studies involving 10,039 participants were included. Longitudinal modeling [dose-by-time interaction=0.0007, 95% CI=0.0001&ndash;0.0013] and endpoint analysis [meta-regression: &beta;=0.00053, 95% CI=0.00018&ndash;0.00088, z=2.98] demonstrated a small but statistically significant positive association between SSRI dose and efficacy. Higher doses of SSRIs were associated with an increased likelihood of dropouts due to side effects [meta-regression: &beta;=0.00207, 95% CI=0.00071&ndash;0.00342, z=2.98] and decreased likelihood of all-cause dropout [meta-regression: &beta;=&ndash;0.00093, 95% CI=&ndash;0.00165 to &minus;0.00021, z=&minus;2.54].<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><u><font color=\"#200020\">Conclusions<\/font><\/u><\/strong>: Higher doses of SSRIs appear <strong><font color=\"#990000\">slightly<\/font><\/strong> more effective in major depressive disorder. This benefit appears to plateau at around 250 mg of imipramine equivalents [50 mg of fluoxetine] The <strong><font color=\"#990000\">slightly increased<\/font><\/strong> benefits of SSRIs at higher doses are <strong><font color=\"#990000\">somewhat offset<\/font><\/strong> by decreased tolerability at high doses.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">[I make no apology for being<\/font> <font color=\"#990000\">somewhat skeptical<\/font> <font color=\"#200020\">maybe even<\/font> <font color=\"#990000\">slightly paranoid<\/font> <font color=\"#200020\">when I read our literature. The recent track record of psychiatric Clinical Trials and Meta-analyses more that justifies that stance imho&#8230;]<\/font><\/em><\/strong><\/sup><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">This study uses some fancy statistical manipulation to conclude that higher doses of antidepressants might be a little more likely to be effective in treating depression. The psychiatric literature is filled with articles about schemes to get more mileage out of the antidepressant treatment. There was the pharmaceutical pipeline that regularly released a new molecule every couple of years. There were several different classes of drugs [<font color=\"#200020\">TCAs<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> MAOIs<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> SSRIs<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> SNRIs<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> Buproprion<\/font>]. We studied sequencing [<font color=\"#200020\">STAR*D<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> TMAP<\/font>], combining [<font color=\"#200020\">CO-MED<\/font>], and augmenting [<font color=\"#200020\">thyroxin, Atypical Antipsychotics<\/font>]. Here we have the suggestion to try a <font color=\"#300030\">higher dose<\/font>. The group a UT Southwestern [Rush, Trivedi] insisted that if we pushed the doses and treated to remission, we would up our odds back when they designed STAR*D, and Dr. Rush is still talking about it [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/ajp.psychiatryonline.org\/doi\/full\/10.1176\/appi.ajp.2015.15070928\">Isn&#8217;t It About Time to Employ Measurement-Based Care in Practice?<\/a> <strong><font color=\"#004400\">AJP<\/font><\/strong> October 2015]. So far, the notion that genetic testing would refine our prescribing remains just that &#8211; a notion. Along the way, we&#8217;ve had <font color=\"#200020\">Vagus Nerve,<\/font><font color=\"#200020\"> Transcranial Magnetic<\/font>, and<font color=\"#200020\"> Deep Brain Stimulators<\/font>. One would think that with such a heavily studied toolkit literally dominating twenty-five years of our journal literature, offering so many combinations and permutations, we would&#8217;ve arrived in the promised land. The inconvenient truth is that we haven&#8217;t &#8211; we haven&#8217;t even come close.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Skeptics like me would say it&#8217;s because most depression arises in response to psychological, biographical, and social forces that don&#8217;t fit the current DSM model of <font color=\"#200020\">Major Depressive Disorder<\/font> &#8211; that instead of <font color=\"#200020\">Treatment-Resistant-Depression<\/font>, we&#8217;d be best advised to turn our attention back to <font color=\"#200020\">Non-Biomedical-Responsive-Depression<\/font> with a bigger toolkit than simply <font color=\"#200020\">Cognitive Behavior Therapy <\/font>&#8211; a direction strongly opposed by the Managed Care\/Collaborative Care\/Integrative Care models. But even Biomedical Devotees like Dr. Insel aren&#8217;t satisfied with the current state of play and he has prattled on endlessly about his disappointment with our lack of progress.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Another facet of this inconvenient truth is that the therapeutic zeal accompanying the attempts to expand the effectiveness of the medications has fueled an epidemic of iatragenic illness [illnesses caused by treatment] &#8211; overmedication, adverse effects, dysinhibition, violence, withdrawal syndromes, etc. Which brings me back to my starting place. After I saw that abstract suggesting higher antidepressant doses before I headed off to the clinic, I recall thinking about how much time I spend dealing with patients who have iatragenic illnesses from their medications or who show up seeking a change in their medications. I mentioned a mega-overmedicated case recently [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/09\/24\/blitzed\/\">blitzed&hellip;<\/a>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/10\/27\/some-truths-are-self-evident\/\">some truths are self-evident&hellip;<\/a>] and this man I saw later in the day [<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2015\/11\/10\/it-just-is-what-it-is\/\">it just is what it is&hellip;<\/a>], but that&#8217;s just the tip of an iceberg of how many such cases I see. We&#8217;re beginning to see Obamacare and Medicaid patients now in the clinic, and I think the local doctors and contract mental health center are beginning to send those cases my way [for me to try to get straightened out]. That obviously can&#8217;t go on forever, even at the moment it&#8217;s barely manageable. But the point is, the inconvenient truth for me is that I appear to be developing a sub-specialty I would never have imagined &#8211; <em><font color=\"#200020\">medication untangler<\/font><\/em>. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\">Now I remember that on the drive home, I was thinking of my training director days, and fantacizing that I would now add a seminar on iatragenic illness as a way of teaching about how to recognize and manage the situations I&#8217;m talking about here [and also as a way of teaching<em><font color=\"#200020\"> what not to do<\/font><\/em> and how to keep <em><font color=\"#200020\">therapeutic zeal<\/font><\/em> in check]. We could alternate readings and cases, and I&#8217;d bet it would be both popular and helpful. Hopefully, there will come a day soon when we won&#8217;t need <em><font color=\"#200020\">medication untangler<\/font><\/em> specialists. And maybe there will come a time when one can again simply say:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"small\"><em><font color=\"#200020\">&quot;Let&#8217;s take another look at your story. Maybe there&#8217;s something going on in you or your life that needs much more attention, something contributing to your depression that medication can&#8217;t possibly change.&quot;<\/font><\/em><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While I was writing this earlier post [it just is what it is&hellip;] about a man who had had his Paxil dose inappropriately raised in response to withdrawal symptoms, I wondered why I was even writing it. Was I patting myself on the back for having developed a high level of suspicion about withdrawal symptoms? 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