{"id":68860,"date":"2016-10-27T23:08:24","date_gmt":"2016-10-28T03:08:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=68860"},"modified":"2016-10-27T23:10:59","modified_gmt":"2016-10-28T03:10:59","slug":"a-frenzied-match-of-ping-pong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2016\/10\/27\/a-frenzied-match-of-ping-pong\/","title":{"rendered":"a frenzied match of ping pong&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"big\" align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref\" target=\"_blank\">Is this trial misreported? Truth seeking in the burgeoning age of trial transparency<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"middle\" align=\"center\">by Peter Doshi, associate editor<\/div>\n<div class=\"middle\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#0066ff\">British Medical Journal<\/font><\/strong>. 2016 355:i5543<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">Peter Doshi has, as usual, done a great job of clearly laying out an issue and exploring all of its facets. It&#8217;s certainly one I haven&#8217;t been able to stop talking about since I knew it was there to be talked about. With great restraint, I&#8217;ll avoid referencing all the times [they might just fill this whole page]. He&#8217;s talking about <em><font color=\"#200020\">the question of whether one needs to absolutely define the analytic parameters of a Clinical Trial before you begin the study<\/font><\/em>, or can you make changes in the outcome variables or statistical methodology along the way. Doshi is particularly focused on what&#8217;s called &quot;<font color=\"#200020\">Outcome Switching<\/font>&quot;&nbsp; [changing either the Primary or Secondary Outcome Variables after the study has begun]. And Doshi uses Ben Goldacre&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/compare-trials.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"><font color=\"#200020\">COMPare<\/font><\/a> study as his example [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/23\/wonky-science\/\" target=\"_blank\">comparin&rsquo;&hellip;<\/a>]. Goldacre&#8217;s group looked at recently published trials in top journals, and found that most of them had outcomes switched <em><font color=\"#200020\">post hoc<\/font><\/em>: <\/p>\n<table width=\"90%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"25%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>TRIALS<br \/>                         CHECKED<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"25%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>TRIALS WERE<br \/>                          PERFECT<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"25%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>OUTCOMES NOT<br \/>                          REPORTED<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"25%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>NEW OUTCOMES<br \/>                          SILENTLY ADDED<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">67<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">9<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">354<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">357<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"small\">Goldacre et al wrote the journals about their findings and catalogued their responses: <\/p>\n<table width=\"90%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"150\" valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">JOURNAL<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"center\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">RESPONSE<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>Annals of Internal Medicine<br \/>            <\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><sup>&ldquo;We concluded that the information reported in the articles  audited by COMPare accurately represents the scientific and clinical  intent detailed in the protocols.&rdquo; &ldquo;Until  the COMPare Project&rsquo;s methodology is modified to provide a more  accurate, complete and nuanced evaluation of published trial reports, we  caution readers and the research community against considering  COMPare&rsquo;s assessments as an accurate reflection of the quality of the  conduct or reporting of clinical trials.&rdquo;<\/sup><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>BMJ<br \/>            <\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><sup><em>&quot;The BMJ<\/em> did not escape criticism but ultimately got a green light. COMPare sent rapid responses for two of the three trials evaluated, one of which led to a correction. It was &ldquo;an example of best practice,&rdquo; the group said in a blog.&quot;<\/sup><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>JAMA<\/sup><br \/>            <\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td rowspan=\"2\" valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><sup>&quot;What about <em>JAMA<\/em> and the <em>Lancet<\/em>? <em>JAMA<\/em> rejected all 11 letters the group sent, and the <em>Lancet<\/em> rejected some but published others.&quot;<\/sup><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>Lancet<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><sup><strong><font color=\"#200020\"><sup>NEJM<\/sup><\/font><\/strong><\/sup><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\"><sup>&ldquo;We have not identified any clinically meaningful discrepancies between  the protocol and the published paper that are of sufficient concern to  require correction of the record.&rdquo;<\/sup><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">This, from Peter&#8217;s article:    <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Lost in a maze of detail<\/font><\/strong><\/div>\n<p>The  disputes are so detail oriented that my eyes crossed trying to follow  what at times feels like a frenzied match of ping pong, each side&rsquo;s  latest rejoinder seeming to rebut their opponents&rsquo; last counterpoint. In  one trial, COMPare&rsquo;s datasheet shows that the group counted 83  secondary outcomes.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref#ref-34\">34<\/a> Yet in its letter<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref#ref-35\">35<\/a> to <em>NEJM<\/em>,  it mentions &ldquo;29 pre-specified secondary outcomes&rdquo; while the last entry  before patient enrolment on ClinicalTrials.gov lists just two.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref#ref-36\">36<\/a> By my count&mdash;based on the protocol<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref#ref-37\">37<\/a> dated before patient enrolment and posted on NEJM.org&mdash;there were over 200.<\/p>\n<p>I shared the case with Curtis Meinert, Johns Hopkins professor and former editor of the journal <em>Clinical Trials<\/em>.  Meinert guessed that fear of future accusations of bias was driving  trialists to bad practices. &ldquo;They don&rsquo;t want to be accused of looking at  something they didn&rsquo;t specify, so they specify every freaking thing.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">What is the clinical significance?<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I  asked COMPare to elaborate on clinical impact. Beyond the technical  violations of best practices in trial reporting, did the team discover  any misreporting that concerned them from a clinical perspective? For  COMPare, this question was out of scope. &ldquo;On clinical  impact, we&rsquo;ve deliberately not examined that. We set out to assess  whether outcomes are correctly reported in journals listed as endorsing  CONSORT,&rdquo; the team told me, referring to the well established guidelines  for proper reporting of randomised trials. &ldquo;We deliberately steered  away from any value judgments on why someone reported something other  than their prespecified outcomes, because we needed our letters to be  factual, unambiguous, and all comparable between trialists and  journals.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But clinical and value judgments were central to journal editors&rsquo; defence. &ldquo;COMPare  objects to the format in which the data are communicated, but COMPare  is silent about whether they dispute the key clinical message of the  article,&rdquo; <em>NEJM<\/em> editor Jeffrey Drazen said through a spokesperson.<em> Annals<\/em>  echoed this sentiment: &ldquo;COMPare&rsquo;s methodology suggests a lack of  recognition of the importance of clinical judgment when assessing  pre-stated outcomes&rdquo;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"big\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Adhering to the original plan<\/font><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The  challenge of establishing outcome &ldquo;switching&rdquo; begins with determining  trialists&rsquo; prespecified outcomes. But which document&mdash;protocol,  statistical analysis plan, registry entry, or some combination of the  above&mdash;details trialists&rsquo; true intentions? COMPare&rsquo;s methods prioritise protocols over registry entries, a practice that troubles Elizabeth Loder, head of research at <em>The BMJ<\/em>,  which requires reporting according to the registry entry. &ldquo;I see a  worrying trend away from trial registries to protocols &hellip; People seem to  think that as long as you&#8217;ve registered the trial and given notice of  its existence, the details don&rsquo;t matter so much.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>Annals<\/em>  said that sometimes editors are faced with &ldquo;a choice between an  incomplete or non-updated registry record, with a reliable date stamp,  and a more detailed and updated protocol document.&rdquo; Such  situations deeply trouble Deborah Zarin, a long time advocate of trial  registration and director of ClinicalTrials.gov, who believes that trial  registration is the foundation of the trial reporting system&#8230; <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Even  with trialists&rsquo; last testament established, complexity remains. Having  herself conducted similar analyses that compare outcomes reported across  different sources, Zarin noted that a key challenge is disagreement in the community over how detailed outcome prespecification must be. &ldquo;From  my perspective, prespecification sets the foundation for a statistical  analysis; if there is no firmly prespecified outcome measure, then it&rsquo;s  unclear to me what any reported P value means,&rdquo; she said, noting that  ClinicalTrials.gov now requires investigators to delineate &ldquo;the specific  metric and the time point[s]&rdquo; for all outcome measures. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Yet  some trialists do not sufficiently define outcomes until after the data  are collected [but not unmasked] and they finalise the statistical  analysis plan, a situation the FDA apparently accepts. The FDA told <em>The BMJ<\/em> that it &ldquo;does not require the statistical analysis plan to be in place prior to initiation of the trial.&rdquo;<em> Annals<\/em>  stated that &ldquo;prespecification is certainly important, but holding  blindly to this prespecification may not be good science. Sometimes it  becomes clear to informed clinicians and scientists who understand the  area that what was prespecified is not going to provide patients and  clinicians with the information they need&rdquo;&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"small\" align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#200020\">If you have made it this far down the page, I&#8217;d like you to notice something. We started with Goldacre et al&#8217;s data which is quite clear. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the prespecified Outcome Variables have been changed. But at this point, you&#8217;re confused &#8211; probably would have difficulty even saying succinctly what the exact topic is. Peter Doshi, a clear thinker, seems to be going from person to person who are saying things that add to the confusion rather than clarify. It&#8217;s not his fault. Or yours. Or mine. That&#8217;s what happens with this topic. The fog rolls in.<\/font> <font color=\"#200020\">That is probably the most important question here,<\/font><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\"> &quot;<\/font><\/strong><strong><font color=\"#990000\">Why do these discussions of clinical trial analysis always get lost in the fog and seem to fade away?<\/font><\/strong><strong><font color=\"#200020\">&quot;<\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"small\" align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#200020\">That question has an answer. As long as the confusion remains, one can do whatever makes the outcome look most like you want it to look. And you can justify your choice with the kind of discussion that has Peter&#8217;s eyes crossing, continuing to play a frenzied match of ping pong until the end of days. So if you keep from being definite about the outcomes, you can pick the one that fits your fancy, and if challenged &#8211; <em>bring on the fog<\/em>.<\/font> <strong><em><font color=\"#990000\">It&#8217;s confusing on purpose&#8230;<\/font><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"small\" align=\"center\"><em><font color=\"#200020\">to be continued&#8230;<\/font><\/em><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is this trial misreported? Truth seeking in the burgeoning age of trial transparency by Peter Doshi, associate editor British Medical Journal. 2016 355:i5543 Peter Doshi has, as usual, done a great job of clearly laying out an issue and exploring all of its facets. 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