{"id":68909,"date":"2016-10-29T21:22:28","date_gmt":"2016-10-30T01:22:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=68909"},"modified":"2016-10-29T21:22:28","modified_gmt":"2016-10-30T01:22:28","slug":"the-frenzied-match-of-ping-pong-step-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2016\/10\/29\/the-frenzied-match-of-ping-pong-step-one\/","title":{"rendered":"the frenzied match of ping pong: step one\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p align=\"justify\"><sup><em><font color=\"#200020\">So do I think that editors and researchers sit around thinking, &quot;<em><font color=\"#200020\">We&#8217;ve got to keep them from nailing down the process to insure that there&#8217;s some official copy of the a priori Primary and Secondary Outcome variables publicly available<\/font><\/em>&quot;? I kind of doubt it. I expect there are some people inside the walls of Pharma whose understanding of this is more intentional, who consciously know that if they don&#8217;t keep this question always open and unresolved, they will lose an extremely valuable tool to market their drugs. But editors? I expect they think the reformers are just being too picky or are anti-pharmacology types or something like that. Maybe they feel like the lady outside the gala whose mink coat has just been sprayed with red paint by some unwashed hippie activist. Or maybe they don&#8217;t buy the scientific explanation for preregistration [see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ejwagenmakers.com\/inpress\/DeGroot1956_TA.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">de Groot<\/a>]. I doubt that it occurs to them that there was some savvy <em><font color=\"#200020\">ghost&middot;organizer<\/font><\/em> in the background carefully orchestrating what Outcomes got presented in the article they published. But the net result is the same &#8211; the issue of the <em><font color=\"#200020\">a priori <\/font><\/em>Primary and Secondary Outcome variables<em><font color=\"#200020\"> <\/font><\/em>just never gets resolved&#8230;<\/font><\/em><\/sup><\/p>\n<p class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">So here we are with the powerful publication editors, an astute investigative editor [Peter Doshi], and a preeminent clinical trial researcher [Ben Goldacre] engaged in a t&ecirc;te-&agrave;-t&ecirc;te about Clinical Trial preregistration, a priori variables, and &quot;Outcome Switching&quot; [that&#8217;s occurring after the fact, disconnected from the specific trial reports]. The clinicians who read all of those trials in their journals likely have no idea that this debate is taking place, and even more to the point, they didn&#8217;t and don&#8217;t know that the paper they read had the &quot;Outcome Switched&quot; [a selective reporting that may well have painted a picture of the results through rose colored glasses]. The discussion in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i5543?ijkey=10h2T9z3F0g7HA4&#038;keytype=ref\" target=\"_blank\">Is this trial misreported? Truth seeking in the burgeoning age of trial transparency<\/a> by the editors is focused on COMPare&#8217;s methodology, whether the prespecifieded Outcome Variables are the best choice, or whether Goldacre&#8217;s team made an &quot;accurate, complete and nuanced evaluation of the published trial reports.&quot;<\/p>\n<p class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">We have to wonder &quot;<strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">Why are they talking about that?<\/font><\/em><\/strong>&quot; Only the <strong><font color=\"#0066ff\">BMJ<\/font><\/strong> editor seems to have responded to the cogent question, &quot;<strong><em><font color=\"#200020\">Did you know you were publishing an article where the Outcome Parameters had been switched?<\/font><\/em><\/strong>&quot; The editors of the <strong><font color=\"#008286\">Annals of Internal Medicine<\/font><\/strong> and the <strong><font color=\"#ff3b00\">New England Journal of Medicine<\/font><\/strong> either denied the facts or said that it didn&#8217;t make any difference &#8211; essentially ignoring the question. And Doshi&#8217;s article doesn&#8217;t address the Sponsors who submitted the articles or ask them the pertinent questions: &quot;<em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Why did you switch the Outcomes?<\/font><\/strong><\/em>&quot; and  &quot;<em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Why didn&#8217;t you tell us that you switched the Outcomes?<\/font><\/strong><\/em>&quot;   <\/p>\n<h2 align=\"justify\"><em><strong><font color=\"#200020\">the first step<br \/>    <\/font><\/strong><\/em><\/h2>\n<div class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">Ben Goldacre&#8217;s <strong><font color=\"#200020\">COMPare<\/font><\/strong> team and the <strong><font color=\"#0066ff\">BMJ<\/font><\/strong>&#8216;s Peter Doshi have done yeoman&#8217;s service here. First, the <strong><font color=\"#200020\">COMPare<\/font><\/strong> group made it clear that &quot;Outcome Switching&quot; is not just a thing of the past [as in <font color=\"#200020\">Paxil Study 329<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> CIT-MD-18<\/font>,<font color=\"#200020\"> Paxil Study 352<\/font>, <font color=\"#200020\">etc<\/font>]. It&#8217;s happening right now, and frequently. And by querying the journal editors, Doshi got the same kind of defensive or attacking response as years ago.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">&ldquo;COMPare objects to the format in which the data are  communicated, but COMPare is silent about whether they dispute the key  clinical message of the article,&rdquo; <em>NEJM<\/em> editor Jeffrey Drazen said through a spokesperson.<\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>Annals<\/em>  echoed this sentiment: &ldquo;COMPare&rsquo;s methodology suggests a lack of  recognition of the importance of clinical judgment when assessing  pre-stated outcomes.&rdquo;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">That&#8217;s a disappointing response to say the least. The <strong><font color=\"#200020\">COMPare<\/font><\/strong> team didn&#8217;t even call it &quot;<em><font color=\"#200020\">Outcome Switching<\/font><\/em>&quot; if  they said they  were doing it and why in the article. They only  catalogued instances where they changed the outcomes  and didn&#8217;t tell  us they were doing it. That&#8217;s a point the editors don&#8217;t seem to quite grasp. If either the authors or the editors were using clinical judgement to make their decisions, that&#8217;s their prerogative. But they need to say that. When I first read the COMPare study, I was impressed that they could even locate the a priori declarations. Frequently, I&#8217;ve either had a hard time finding them or actually failed in the endeavor. From the <a href=\"http:\/\/compare-trials.org\/faq\" target=\"_blank\">Compare FAQ<\/a>:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><em>&quot;<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/compare-trials.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/protocol.pdf\">Our gold standard<\/a>   for finding pre-specified outcomes is a trial protocol that pre-dates   trial commencement, as this is where CONSORT states outcomes should be   pre-specified. However this is often not available, in which case, as a   second best, we get the pre-specified outcomes from the trial registry   entry that pre-dates the trial commencement. Where the registry entry   has been modified since the trial began, we access the archived   versions, and take the pre-specified outcomes from the last registry   entry before the trial began.&quot;<\/em><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"small\" align=\"justify\">So I guess I would say that the first step in evaluating an RCT is to see if the outcomes reported are the same ones that were prespecified in the <em><font color=\"#200020\">a priori<\/font><\/em> protocol. That&#8217;s the standard. If they&#8217;ve been changed, and the change isn&#8217;t addressed anywhere in the published article, you&#8217;re likely not reading a scientific document. You&#8217;re reading an advertisement&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So do I think that editors and researchers sit around thinking, &quot;We&#8217;ve got to keep them from nailing down the process to insure that there&#8217;s some official copy of the a priori Primary and Secondary Outcome variables publicly available&quot;? I kind of doubt it. I expect there are some people inside the walls of Pharma [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-68909","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-opinion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68909","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=68909"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68909\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68928,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68909\/revisions\/68928"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=68909"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=68909"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=68909"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}