{"id":7463,"date":"2011-04-16T14:34:51","date_gmt":"2011-04-16T18:34:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=7463"},"modified":"2011-04-16T15:42:57","modified_gmt":"2011-04-16T19:42:57","slug":"poking-holes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/04\/16\/poking-holes\/","title":{"rendered":"poking holes&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div align=\"justify\">All of this talk of the <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong> study and looking into the use of Atypical Antipsychotics as &quot;augmentation&quot; in the treatment of depression has confused my radar about depression in general. So I appreciated getting sent this article that looks at the natural history of depression from a population study in the Netherlands. I had actually been nosing around for such a study, but was hampered by the fact that my main library is via the Internet &#8211; the old stuff is in musty books in real libraries far away.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/bjp.rcpsych.org\/cgi\/content\/abstract\/181\/3\/208\"><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Duration of major depressive episodes in the general population: results  from The Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study [NEMESIS]<\/font><\/strong><\/a><br \/>            <sup>by JAN SPIJKER, MD, RON de GRAAF PhD, ROB V. BIJL PhD WODC, AARTJAN T. F. BEEKMAN MD PhD, JOHAN ORMEL PhD, WILLEM A. NOLEN PhD<\/sup><br \/>                 <strong><font color=\"#200020\">The British Journal of Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong> (2002) 181: 208-213<\/div>\n<p>           <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong>Background<\/strong><\/u> Data on the duration of major depressive episodes (MDE)  in the general population are sparse.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong>Aims<\/strong><\/u> To assess the duration of MDE and its clinical and  socio-demographic determinants in a study group drawn from the general  population with newly originated episodes of major depression.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong>Method<\/strong><\/u> The Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study is a  prospective epidemiological survey in the adult population (<em>n<\/em>=7076),  using the Composite International Diagnostic Interview.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong>Results<\/strong><\/u> The median duration of MDE was 3.0 months; 50% of participants recovered within 3 months, 63% within 6 months, 76% within 12 months and nearly 20% had not recovered at 24 months. Determinants of persistence were severity of depression and comorbid dysthymia. A recurrent episode predicted shorter duration.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><u><strong>Conclusions<\/strong><\/u> Although half of those affected with MDE recovered rapidly, the risk of chronicity (duration 24 months or more) was considerable. This underlines the necessity of diagnosing and treating those at risk.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\">Note that these survival curves are from a retrospective population study, not from hospitals or doctors.<\/div>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/natural-hx.gif\" \/><br \/>        <sup>Comorbid Dysthymia: the short form is &quot;gloomy people&quot; &#8211; always more or less of depressed.<\/sup><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">These simple curves seem like the real deal to me. Were one in a perverse frame of mind, one might point out that the soft winds of Holland have a better track record [50% at 3 months] than <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong>&#8216;s Citalopram. That&#8217;s probably not altogether fair, but the curves do poke a hole in the whole driven-to-treat mentality of <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong> or <strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong>. And I know when I read things like&nbsp; this &#8230;<\/div>\n<ul>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup>Major depressive disorder (MDD) is the fourth most disabling medical condition worldwide (based on disability-adjusted lifeyears) and is expected to be ranked second by year 2020. MDD is typically recurrent, often chronic and disabling, with a lifetime prevalence rate of over 15%. [from <strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong>].<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">I&#8217;m now suspicious it&#8217;s the introduction to a sales pitch [certainly in the case of <strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong>].<\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\">Probably the greatest fall-out from the Pharmaceutical Industry&#8217;s invasion into Psychiatry is that it&#8217;s hard to know what to believe &#8211; not just for patients, but for those of us involved in treatment. It&#8217;ll be easy to ignore <strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong> if it turns out to be what it looks like it is now. But when you find yourself questioning an NIMH study like <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong>, it&#8217;s hard to know where to turn for credible information. <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Mental Illness is confusing enough in its own right. We sure don&#8217;t need a lot of jury-rigged science further muddying the water&#8230;<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All of this talk of the STAR*D study and looking into the use of Atypical Antipsychotics as &quot;augmentation&quot; in the treatment of depression has confused my radar about depression in general. So I appreciated getting sent this article that looks at the natural history of depression from a population study in the Netherlands. 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