{"id":8481,"date":"2011-05-05T13:21:03","date_gmt":"2011-05-05T17:21:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=8481"},"modified":"2011-05-06T05:49:15","modified_gmt":"2011-05-06T09:49:15","slug":"godzilla-vs-ghidorah-the-three-headed-monster-from-outer-space","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/05\/05\/godzilla-vs-ghidorah-the-three-headed-monster-from-outer-space\/","title":{"rendered":"Godzilla vs. Ghidorah <sub>[the Three Headed Monster from Outer Space]<\/sub>&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a title=\"Godzilla: movie history\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/petcaretips.net\/godzilla.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" border=\"1\" src=\"http:\/\/petcaretips.net\/godzilla_ghidorah.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>              <sup>circa 1964<\/sup><\/div>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"220\" vspace=\"4\" hspace=\"4\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" title=\"Godzilla versus King Kong [1962]\" alt=\"Godzilla versus King Kong [1962]\" src=\"http:\/\/images.wikia.com\/godzilla\/images\/9\/94\/Godzilla_king_kong_small.jpg\" \/>Okay, so my Japanese filmography is a little off. The first Godzilla <em>versus<\/em> movie pitted Godzilla against King Kong [right]. I just couldn&#8217;t resist the Godzilla vs. Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster from Outer Space visual to describe the coming face off over the fate of personalized medicine in psychiatry between Evian Gordon&#8217;s <strong><font color=\"#660033\">Brain Resources<\/font><\/strong> and Madhukar Trivedi&#8217;s <strong><font color=\"#0099ff\">NIMH<\/font><\/strong> funded offering. While there a number of differences between these studies, the thrust of things is similar &#8211; treat different groups of depressed people with different antidepressants, then measure everything that can be conceivably be measured.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The obvious point of both studies is to sift through the masses of data and locate objective measures that will predict success with a specific treatment.&nbsp; Both studies are commanded by veterans of <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong> and <strong><font color=\"#300030\">CO-MED<\/font><\/strong>, previous attempts to find ways to improve the results of the antidepressants. My own take on <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong> and <strong><font color=\"#300030\">CO-MED <\/font><\/strong>has been more than adequately documented here. The studies accepted a loosely collected cohort, used idiosyncratic outcome measures including an unproven [and apparently widely unused] telephone call-in psychometric, and then they competed for honors in data obfuscation. Neither produced any enduring clarification of drug treatment of MDD. R\u00c3\u00a9sum\u00c3\u00a9 expansion was the major outcome as best I could tell.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong> is already underway [<u><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/clinicaltrials.gov\/ct2\/show\/NCT00693849?term=NCT00693849\"><strong>clinical trial<\/strong><\/a><\/u>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3036635\/\"><u><strong>intro article<\/strong><\/u><\/a>].&nbsp; They plan 2016 MDD patients from a variety of sites [primary care, specialty, academic, private] divided into three groups treated with Escitalopram [Lexapro], Sertraline [Zoloft], or Venlafaxine XR [Effexor]. There is no placebo group. The data followed has been previously discussed <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/04\/20\/personalized-medicine-the-brain-resources-company-ii%E2%80%A6\/\"><u><strong>here<\/strong><\/u><\/a> and is available in their <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3036635\/\"><strong><u>article<\/u><\/strong><\/a> [includes <strong><font color=\"#660033\">Brain Resource<\/font><\/strong>&#8216;s proprietary instruments]:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"center\"><u><strong><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3036635\/\">International Study to Predict Optimized Treatment for Depression (iSPOT-D), a randomized clinical trial: rationale and protocol<\/a><\/strong><\/u><br \/>           <sup>   by Leanne M Williams, A John Rush, Stephen H Koslow, Stephen R Wisniewski, Nicholas J Cooper, Charles B Nemeroff, Alan F Schatzberg, and  Evian Gordon<\/sup><br \/>              <span class=\"citation-abbreviation\"><strong>Trials<\/strong>. <\/span><span class=\"citation-publication-date\">2011; <\/span><span class=\"citation-volume\">12<\/span><span class=\"citation-flpages\">: 4.<\/span>               <\/div>\n<p>             <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><sup><strong>Background<\/strong>: Clinically  useful treatment moderators of Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) have not  yet been identified, though some baseline predictors of treatment  outcome have been proposed. The aim of iSPOT-D is to identify  pretreatment measures that predict or moderate MDD treatment response or  remission to escitalopram, sertraline or venlafaxine; and develop a  model that incorporates multiple predictors and moderators.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"sec\"><sup><strong>Methods\/Design<\/strong>: The  International Study to Predict Optimized Treatment &#8211; in Depression  (iSPOT-D) is a multi-centre, international, randomized, prospective,  open-label trial. It is enrolling 2016 MDD outpatients (ages 18-65) from  primary or specialty care practices (672 per treatment arm; 672 age-,  sex- and education-matched healthy controls). Study-eligible patients  are antidepressant medication (ADM) na&iuml;ve or willing to undergo a  one-week wash-out of any non-protocol ADM, and cannot have had an  inadequate response to protocol ADM. Baseline assessments include  symptoms; distress; daily function; cognitive performance;  electroencephalogram and event-related potentials; heart rate and  genetic measures. A subset of these baseline assessments are repeated  after eight weeks of treatment. Outcomes include the 17-item Hamilton  Rating Scale for Depression (primary) and self-reported depressive  symptoms, social functioning, quality of life, emotional regulation, and  side-effect burden (secondary). Participants may then enter a  naturalistic telephone follow-up at weeks 12, 16, 24 and 52. The first  half of the sample will be used to identify potential predictors and  moderators, and the second half to replicate and confirm.<\/sup><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\" class=\"sec\"><sup><strong>Discussion<\/strong>: First  enrolment was in December 2008, and is ongoing. iSPOT-D evaluates  clinical and biological predictors of treatment response in the largest  known sample of MDD collected worldwide.<\/sup><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">Trivedi&#8217;s <strong><font color=\"#0099ff\">NIMH<\/font><\/strong> funded study is not yet off the ground [no clinical trial registered that I can find.] The only write-up I&#8217;ve found is the NIMH description [<a href=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/05\/04\/8463\/\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong>the race for biomarkers&#8230;<\/strong><\/u><\/a>]. There&#8217;s no placebo group. They plan for 675 subjects divided among citalopram [Celexa], bupropion [Wellbutrin], and cognitive behavioral  therapy [CBT]. The testing is not so clearly described as with <strong><font color=\"#300030\">iSPOT<\/font><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<table width=\"98%\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"2\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"12%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"><strong>Project Number:<\/strong> <\/td>\n<td width=\"38%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"> \t\t\t\t\t                    \t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/projectreporter.nih.gov\/project_info_description.cfm?aid=8014460&#038;icde=8007666\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong>1U01MH092221-01<\/strong><\/u><\/a>  \t\t\t\t\t                    \t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td width=\"20%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"><strong> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tContact Principal Investigator:<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"30%\" valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\">  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\tTRIVEDI, MADHUKAR H\t \t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"><strong> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tTitle:<\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tESTABLISHING MODERATORS\/BIOSIGNATURES OF ANTIDEPRESSANT RESPONSE- CLINICAL CARE \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"><strong> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tAwardee Organization:<\/strong><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" class=\"text5\"> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tUNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SW MED CTR\/DALLAS  \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" colspan=\"4\" class=\"text5\"><strong>Abstract Text:<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" align=\"justify\" colspan=\"4\" class=\"text5\"><sup> \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t      DESCRIPTION (provided by applicant): The timely selection of the best  treatment for patients with depression is critical to the goal of  improving remission rates. Due to the biological heterogeneity and  variable symptom presentation of depression, it is unlikely that a  single clinical or biological marker can guide treatment selection.  Rather, a biosignature developed from a systematic exploration of a  group of clinical and biological markers is more likely to be  successful. Two types of biosignatures are needed to achieve improved  outcomes: 1) biosignatures to maximize the selection of optimal  treatment for individual patients at the beginning of treatment  (moderators) and 2) biosignatures to identify indicators of eventual  outcomes early in treatment (mediators). This approach has great  potential to personalize treatment and maximize the number of patients  who can be treated to full remission with a given treatment. We propose a  comparative effectiveness trial of three mechanistically distinct  treatments for MDD (citalopram, bupropion, and cognitive behavioral  therapy) in which we will assess a comprehensive array of carefully  selected clinical (i.e. anxious depression, early life trauma, &amp;  gender) and biological (i.e. genetic, neuroimaging, serum, epigenetic  &amp; qEEG) moderators and mediators of outcome. Using innovative  statistical approaches the identified moderators and mediators will then  be used to develop a differential depression treatment response index  (DTRI). The proposed study is a randomized two-stage trial (Stagel:12  wks; Stage2: 12 wks) design with 675 MDD patients (with a history of one  adequate trial of an SSRI except citalopram) assigned to one of three  treatment conditions (n=225 each). This two stage approach is similar to  a Sequential Multiple Assignment Randomized Trial (SMART) design&#8230; <\/sup>           \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>        <\/p>\n<div>While my personal skepticism about these enterprises knows no bounds [in no particular order]:<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>MDD is a heterogeneous category, probably not a &quot;disease&quot;<\/li>\n<li>The track record of these investigators is abysmal<\/li>\n<li>Antidepressants are likely &quot;symptomatic&quot; remedies<\/li>\n<li>&quot;Brute Force&quot; science is rarely successful<\/li>\n<li>These studies reek of profit motive [screening]       <\/li>\n<li>etc&#8230;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"justify\">I&#8217;ll try to keep an open mind. More to the point at hand, these authors in both studies are notorious for mangling data and reaching foregone conclusions irrespective of the actual findings. These studies have an enormous slop factor because they&#8217;re measuring so many things, and I anticipate the statistical correction fudging possibilities are infinite. If they find something and want us to believe it, they&#8217;re going to have to publish their raw data for independent analysis. Otherwise, no matter what they say &#8211; their results are going to be questioned as just more <strong><font color=\"#300030\">STAR*D<\/font><\/strong>\/<strong><font color=\"#300030\">CO-MED<\/font><\/strong> mush and jello. [I also have to say that the notion of looking for a biomarker that will predict responses to Cognitive Behavior Therapy strikes me as ludicrous science fiction]&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/p>\n<hr size=\"1\" \/> <strong>APA 2011<br \/>   Symposium 87 <\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>8:00 A.M. &ndash; 11:00 A.M.<br \/>   Room 313A-C, Level 3 Hawaii Convention Center<br \/>   <strong>Predictors of Disease Vulnerability and Treatment Response: Personalized Medicine in Psychiatry<\/strong><br \/>   Chair: Charles B. Nemeroff, M.D., Ph.D.<\/p>\n<p>   1. Personalized Medicine: Depression<br \/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Charles B. Nemeroff, M.D., Ph.D.<br \/>  2. Personalized Medicine: Psychotic Major Depression<br \/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Alan F. Schatzberg, M.D.<br \/>  3. Using fMRI to Predict Treatment Response in Patients With GAD and Depression<br \/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ned H. Kalin, M.D.<br \/>  4. Personalized Medicine in Psychiatry: Alzheimer&rsquo;s Disease<br \/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.med.miami.edu\/news\/drug-discovery-pioneer-and-biotech-entrepreneur-joins-miller-school-faculty\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong>Claes Wahlestedt<\/strong><\/u><\/a>, M.D., Ph.D.<br \/>  5. Personalized Medicine in Psychiatry: Emergent Therapeutic Advances in Schizophrenia<br \/> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Peter F. Buckley, M.D.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; circa 1964 Okay, so my Japanese filmography is a little off. The first Godzilla versus movie pitted Godzilla against King Kong [right]. I just couldn&#8217;t resist the Godzilla vs. Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster from Outer Space visual to describe the coming face off over the fate of personalized medicine in psychiatry between Evian [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8481","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8481","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8481"}],"version-history":[{"count":32,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8481\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8515,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8481\/revisions\/8515"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8481"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8481"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8481"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}