{"id":9687,"date":"2011-05-31T00:32:35","date_gmt":"2011-05-31T04:32:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/?p=9687"},"modified":"2011-05-31T01:24:15","modified_gmt":"2011-05-31T05:24:15","slug":"an-eye-for-an-eye-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/index.php\/2011\/05\/31\/an-eye-for-an-eye-world\/","title":{"rendered":"an eye for an eye world&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/8890670\" target=\"_blank\"><u><strong><font color=\"#200020\">Redefining the role of psychiatry in medicine.<\/font><\/strong><\/u><\/a><br \/>                   by Lieberman JA and Rush AJ<br \/>                   <strong><font color=\"#200020\">Am J Psychiatry<\/font><\/strong>. 1996 Nov;153(11):1388-97.<\/div>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/lieberman-1.gif\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Sometimes, the hardest thing to see is the thing that&#8217;s closest to you. I&#8217;ve been wondering why the people who were involved in the revolution of 1980 were always talking about what psychiatrists should or should not do &#8211; always &quot;redefining.&quot; Why were they so insistent on negating the mind\/brain dichotomy? What was the force behind saying &quot;evidence-based&quot; or &quot;measurement-based&quot; in every sentence where it could possibly be inserted? As I read through Drs. Lieberman and Rush&#8217;s commentary, I saw those parts in red and sort of had an awakening. The charge was that the psychodynamic psychiatrists and analysts inappropriately used time-intensive treatments for economic gain. It wasn&#8217;t just that other disciplines charged less, it was that the psychotherapist\/psychiatrists had an economic investment in doing long term psychotherapy and took advantage of insurers and patients. My own team was the last generation of &quot;bad guys&quot; &#8211; what the &quot;new psychiatry&quot; was getting over.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"4\" height=\"184\" border=\"0\" align=\"right\" width=\"247\" src=\"http:\/\/1boringoldman.com\/images\/lieberman-2.gif\" \/>I missed that part of the story, but from the intensity of the reaction, it must&#8217;ve had some truth in it. I practiced psychotherapy in a post-3rd-party world and my fees were in the range of my counterparts in other specialties. Those who used insurance filed it themselves. Most didn&#8217;t. But that&#8217;s another story not really germane here. I expect the charge is truer than I&#8217;d like, and less true than the straw man it became. But for the moment, I&#8217;ll need to digest the fact that what happened in 1980 must&#8217;ve felt like a reform movement to its proponents. I know that in that year before I left, I felt like a pariah.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I&#8217;ve heard Insel, Lieberman, and others say things about the humanism of the psychiatric view of people [in red above right], and wondered how in the clinical neuroscience world of modern psychiatry, those skills might be developed.&nbsp; I agree that it&#8217;s an important contribution, but it doesn&#8217;t just come with the title. It&#8217;s learned by working closely with patients and not by writing prescriptions. I presume that&#8217;s part of training these days, at least I hope so.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">But back to the main thread of this post. The psychotherapists\/psychiatrists were apparently seen like we now view many of the neurobiologists &#8211; as in it for the money &#8211; recommending long term therapy to pad their salaries. I guess it&#8217;s an &quot;eye for an eye world&quot;.<\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">Can we have the mind back in the picture now? It&#8217;s been a long time and we haven&#8217;t done so well without it&#8230; <\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Redefining the role of psychiatry in medicine. by Lieberman JA and Rush AJ Am J Psychiatry. 1996 Nov;153(11):1388-97. Sometimes, the hardest thing to see is the thing that&#8217;s closest to you. 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